Pioneer or Kicker hmm (8W7 Stealthbox thread) *Now with ID8's!

William from NOLA · Post by **William from NOLA** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:55 pm

Airforceyooper wrote:Can you put some spacers under the seat bolts themselves and get yourself another inch or so? Maybe have some brackets made that could get your another couple inches? Then you'd have a bit more flexibility.

Well, not a few inches, but maybe one more inch. The seatbelt buckles are kinda short and might only let one more inch. I'd really prefer not to raise the seat if possible.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:22 pm

Image Dynamics ID8? Bout a 4.75 depth you add a small spacer it'll fit nicely. Magnet isn't bad either if you were to forward fire.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:24 pm

Realistically it'd be hard to beat an 8W7 of the 8" subs available. W7 is a top performer as is but the market for good 8" subs is near nonexistant. Haven't heard a shallow sub even 12" form that would realistically give it a run for the money in SQ.

William from NOLA · Post by **William from NOLA** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:30 am

I'm looking into the ID8's, but with one question, can they really handle 300rms!? Kinda shocking for an 8"

Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:32 am

not really. it uses a standard coil the same as what's used on the other sizes.

William from NOLA · Post by **William from NOLA** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:38 am

Hm. I guess I'll have to get 4 of them then.

...but will they all fit

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:43 am

William from NOLA wrote:I'm looking into the ID8's, but with one question, can they really handle 300rms!? Kinda shocking for an 8"

Thermally, yes. Mechanically, not in most cases. 150WRMS or so is all you're gonna need with most enclosures. Ported has more mechanical control at lower frequencies (until you drop below tuning) in that case you could get away with that much. But typical sealed, IB, etc. nah not necessary. The thing is pretty efficient as is, 85.5db is pretty efficient for just an 8", a lot of 12" subs on the market aren't that efficient just due to the design optimized for a small sealed box or similar.

William from NOLA · Post by **William from NOLA** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:47 am

I can do 150w each with 4 of them.

Time to get in some box planning. I may have to resort to using two; we'll see... lol

Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:01 am

Jonathan wrote:Thermally, yes. Mechanically, not in most cases. 150WRMS or so is all you're gonna need with most enclosures. Ported has more mechanical control at lower frequencies (until you drop below tuning) in that case you could get away with that much. But typical sealed, IB, etc. nah not necessary. The thing is pretty efficient as is, 85.5db is pretty efficient for just an 8", a lot of 12" subs on the market aren't that efficient just due to the design optimized for a small sealed box or similar.

I concur however i wouldn't say not in most cases. and an efficency of 85.5 isn't that impressive. most subs today or new released subs are in the low to high ninety's and some are even into the 100's, which leads me to believe the sub has a decent spider (s) in which case it would mechanically be able to take 300 watts in a standard box and possibly ib.

Robert Wollenberg · Post by **Robert Wollenberg** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:19 am

why not do something like this ...

http://www.buwaldahybrids.com/phpBB/vie ... php?t=2796