Help with speakers.

IKOABT · Post by **IKOABT** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:49 pm

haha I don't understand most of the stuff you guys are explaining, but you're suggesting an aftermarket radio as well? I thought I might get one, but I really don't have the money. Maybe I'll just get the speakers for now, and then get the radio later when I have more money. I just read the reviews for the speakers and they sounded close to what I was looking for, at a cheaper level, and I'm sure they'll be better than my current setup. I'm not really crazy about this stuff, I just want a little more improvement.

How much would this radio enhance those speakers? If you can tell....
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Sony-In- ... tDetail.do

Vindicate · Post by **Vindicate** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:05 pm

How much are you looking to spend ideally? From there the forum can help you find something in your price range. I'm fairly new to car audio also, but I'm sure I can help you shop around for something decent.

IKOABT · Post by **IKOABT** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:10 pm

I know everything can be a lot cheaper online, but I can't install anything myself, so I'm having Circuit City do it up. That's why I've been using there products as references. I wish I knew what I was doing, so everything could be cheaper. I was originally planning on spending a little over $200, but now I was just thinking of getting nice speakers because I don't know when I'll be getting any more money.....

haha

stephensmia · Post by **stephensmia** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:16 pm

installing new rear speakers is a snap. you should not have a problems doing that yourself. the people on this forum know car audio and can answer any question you have. so don't waste the money and have someone else do what you can do in minutes.

Vindicate · Post by **Vindicate** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:19 pm

I agree with Stephen, with alil reading you can do it easily yourself and save some money.

http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/cat/-13 ... okLearn.do

Thats a tutorial right from the Circuit City website that I found just by typing "Installing Car Speakers" in Google.

IKOABT · Post by **IKOABT** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:22 pm

haha You don't know me. Maybe, just maybe, I could get my father to help me out. But I'm completely stupid when it comes to this kind of stuff. I'd have to have exact, step by step, instructions. And few tools involved. It's not a good idea. haha

IKOABT · Post by **IKOABT** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:25 pm

Vindicate wrote:I agree with Stephen, with alil reading you can do it easily yourself and save some money.
http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/cat/-13 ... okLearn.do
Thats a tutorial right from the Circuit City website that I found just by typing "Installing Car Speakers" in Google.

Yes, I've seen those instructions while browsing around. Maybe I'll ask someone if they could help me out with that. Also, I read on there that installing speakers in your front door isn't that good for sound quality because the speaker is so low to the ground and your ear can't pick up on all of the sounds that are coming out of the speakers. What do you think? This is why I was think of replacing my rear deck speakers. But some people are telling me not to get 6x9's....

From the site:
"So, if you think about it, putting a speaker inside a door panel, down by your feet is really not the best place for those sounds to be coming from. Component speakers, as they are called, let the speaker cone that handles those highly directional sounds, the tweeter, to be mounted higher on the door or almost anywhere else. This brings the music up to where your ears are and makes a huge difference in the illusion of depth and height."

Vindicate · Post by **Vindicate** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:25 pm

Yea man definately try doing it yourself, once u figure out how to do it you will kick yourself for even thinking of paying someone to do it!

Thats true about door speakers, thats why people get custom made kick panels installed. Thats what I gotta do next, cuz even with spacers on my door speakers to try and angle they only point to about my knee level. I can hear some from them when I pull my fader all the way front, but not near as much as I should be.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:16 pm

Power is the only thing that can blow a speaker. Only reason a speaker blows is because of too much power, distortion has nothing to do with it. Clipping increases the average power output of an amplifier, twice as much power at the highest extreme, but regardless any form of clipping increases average power due to the square wave. That's what blows a speaker. A HU amp won't ever blow a 1000W RMS thermally rated subwoofer, distortion or not.

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:20 pm

JeremyC wrote:Ok Joey made 2 points that I want to touch on. First of is the rating that aftermarket decks use for the wattage. Most decks say 40 to 50 watts, in reality its more like 20 to 25 watts RMS. A prerfect example is the Eclipse 8445 and 8455. They are rated at 50 watts max, but RMS is more like 20 to 25.
Second is the use of an aftermarket deck on factory speakers. I have yet to see a factory speaker that didn't sound better and play louder when hooked to a small amp, or an aftermarket headunit. Most factory headunits are only about 10 to 15 watts rms (if that). So putting a new headunit in that doubles the power (say 10 to 20 watts rms) can and will make a diffrence.
On a final note, RMS power normally doesn't blow a speaker. Its the distorted power that people put to a speaker trying to make it seem louder, or hit harder that causes problems. Especially in a factory setup.

persactly!!!!!!!!!!!