Debate with sister.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:15 pm

MobileAudio219 wrote:Thats like my uncle, he's been smoking non filters since he was 14-15 y.o, he's now in his upper 40's and hacks all day long.

yep I hear ya.

Tim

MobileAudio219 · Post by **MobileAudio219** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:27 pm

Tim wrote:yep I hear ya.
Tim

For once....

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:28 pm

MobileAudio219 wrote:For once....

I listen to you, you only assume I don't listen, because you always think the worst of me. *stomps off and slams the door*

Tim

MobileAudio219 · Post by **MobileAudio219** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:24 pm

Tim wrote:I listen to you, you only assume I don't listen, because you always think the worst of me. *stomps off and slams the door*
Tim

Oh please, you PRETEND to listen.

Darthness · Post by **Darthness** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:45 am

i have to agree with most of you - if we want to dump our money into social programs, they need to be ones that benefit soceity. Free/cheap education is where its at, maybe subsidized loans at a low rate to cover cost of living

Whats that they say? give a man a fish, feed him for a day

Teach a man to fish, feed him for life. Some concept applies here. If we educate these people (and set them up with internships/work studies, maybe discounted daycare) The benefit to the country will be enormous. I can see no down side to putting these slackers through college and making them into tomorrow's doctors, engineers, scientists, etc. Having an educated population is pretty much the only way to not be a third world country.You see places like china and india pushing education now, and they're heading towards the top economically, and america continues to fall behind pretty much everywhere. (except in borrowing money - we're great at that)

MobileAudio219 · Post by **MobileAudio219** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:00 am

Darthness wrote:i have to agree with most of you - if we want to dump our money into social programs, they need to be ones that benefit soceity. Free/cheap education is where its at, maybe subsidized loans at a low rate to cover cost of living

Whats that they say? give a man a fish, feed him for a day

Teach a man to fish, feed him for life. Some concept applies here. If we educate these people (and set them up with internships/work studies, maybe discounted daycare) The benefit to the country will be enormous. I can see no down side to putting these slackers through college and making them into tomorrow's doctors, engineers, scientists, etc. Having an educated population is pretty much the only way to not be a third world country.You see places like china and india pushing education now, and they're heading towards the top economically, and america continues to fall behind pretty much everywhere. (except in borrowing money - we're great at that)

That's a good point, and I agree with you...

I'm all about trying to help the fellow citizens, atleast the ones who are willing to help themselfs.

I really hope that the next president can/will do something great for the economy.

Darthness · Post by **Darthness** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:00 pm

MobileAudio219 wrote:That's a good point, and I agree with you...
I'm all about trying to help the fellow citizens, atleast the ones who are willing to help themselfs.
I really hope that the next president can/will do something great for the economy.

I doubt either will. I think obama has a better chance, he apparently wants to get us out of iraq. Now, this is assuming all his socalist-like plans don't get implemented immediately and he raises taxes for rich folk and corporations, and starts taxing the ****ing oil companies like they should be.

by no means am i on obama's bandcockwagon, i'll likely vote bob barr unless it gets real close, then i'll throw my vote to obama. Anything to stop McSame.

MobileAudio219 · Post by **MobileAudio219** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:21 pm

Darthness wrote:I doubt either will. I think obama has a better chance, he apparently wants to get us out of iraq. Now, this is assuming all his socalist-like plans don't get implemented immediately and he raises taxes for rich folk and corporations, and starts taxing the ****ing oil companies like they should be.
by no means am i on obama's bandcockwagon, i'll likely vote bob barr unless it gets real close, then i'll throw my vote to obama. Anything to stop McSame.

Haha, McSame... That's funny.

cargodz · Post by **cargodz** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:24 pm

I am an avid smoker and have been for decades and when our grandchildren come over there is NO Smoking in the house... It's either outside or in the garage. The same holds true for my daughter's home as she is also a smoker. If we take the kids somewhere no smoking in the car either... Smoking is a personal choice and should NEVER be inflicted on children.

By the way, not to question but I believe there may be more to your uncle than just the non-filters. I myself smoke camel non-filters and my doctors hates me as I still have a better lung capacity than he does... He's a nonsmoker and half my age.
I've actually seen the difference between filtered and unfiltered on the effects of the lungs and believe it or not the non-filters are farrr better for you as you are not inhailing the cotton and fiberglass that is in the filter which your body cannot process.

And before everyone jumps on this anti smoking subject... I do Not want to see anyone pick up on this habit, nor do I feel bad when someone quits. I actually feel quit good for them... I just have no intentions on quiting myself any time soon.

MobileAudio219 · Post by **MobileAudio219** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:36 pm

cargodz wrote:I am an avid smoker and have been for decades and when our grandchildren come over there is NO Smoking in the house... It's either outside or in the garage. The same holds true for my daughter's home as she is also a smoker. If we take the kids somewhere no smoking in the car either... Smoking is a personal choice and should NEVER be inflicted on children.
By the way, not to question but I believe there may be more to your uncle than just the non-filters. I myself smoke camel non-filters and my doctors hates me as I still have a better lung capacity than he does... He's a nonsmoker and half my age.
I've actually seen the difference between filtered and unfiltered on the effects of the lungs and believe it or not the non-filters are farrr better for you as you are not inhailing the cotton and fiberglass that is in the filter which your body cannot process.
And before everyone jumps on this anti smoking subject... I do Not want to see anyone pick up on this habit, nor do I feel bad when someone quits. I actually feel quit good for them... I just have no intentions on quiting myself any time soon.

It's fine if you want to smoke, thats completely up to you. I'm glad you agree with not smoking in the same area as the kids though!

As far as the filter vs non filter, I have NO idea.