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dmeyer07
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Creatine works just fine for me. That is with proper diet, etc...
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I've tried creatine, and didn't get the results I wanted.
Smoker, from the stuff on the link you posted, it doesn't look bad.
My work out ruteen consists of doing 8 reps, then adding weight, and doing 6 reps, then adding more weight, and doing 4 reps... and so on until I reach 1 rep. Is this a good ruteen?
There are just so minny choices on things to take, my head is spinning!:-)
BTW, I eat all the time, and can't seem to gain any weight. Like I said, I weigh 110 pounds, it wouldn't take much to see an increase in muscle size.
The more and more I look at NO2, the more I talk myself out of taking it.
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P.s, the thing that kid at my school was on, is Deca, has any one used this product, or know anything about it. I googled it, but didn't find a whole lot of information, except that it is $79 for 1 bottle, of 60 tabblets.
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smoker wrote:oh yea and it wont shrink the boys either.

lol that is always a think to keep in mind, i know i'd take them over muscles
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heres what i will do and it works real well for me. i have to make changes from time to time so you dont get in a rut but this is basically what i like.
1. go run a mile. do it in 15 minutes so you get your heart rate up and loosen up. treadmill, cross country trainer whatever...
2.hit a cable machine and using either the rope or the v-bar do a couple light sets just to get the elbow joints and shoulders and biceps/triceps loose..you ever hear popping when you work out? you need to stretch your ligaments as well as your muscles before hitting it hard, they need to strengthen together. just stand with the v-bar infront of you with a comfortable weight and set it up so that with your arms hanging at your sides and bent at the elbows that is your mid point in a rep. then use the rope to pull overhead.
3.free weight dumbell curls preferably standing but sitting is fine if you need to maintain posture. i pick a weight i can do that burns at about 8 and kills at 10 reps and then do 2 sets. then i pick a weight that burns at about 3 and kills at 5 and do it twice. then i grab a weight that i cant do three times and try like hell to do it.
4. sit on a bench and do wrist curls lay your arm on your leg with the wrist and hand hanging over and as the dumbell lowers let it run to the tip of your fingers and then bring it back in with your fingers and then curl just the wrist without lifting your arm. as much of this as you can stand is good.
5. preacher curls. i prefer the hammer strength free weight machine for this hardcore guys will swear by a curl bar and bench but for most people the machine really helps maintain correct form. just like everything else three sets 1st set is 10, 2nd is 5, 3rd is 3
6.depending on your gym some sort of back machine is usually available and you definitely dont want to neglect your back espescially if you want big biceps because these two groups work together.
7. go run another mile then go home( although sometimes i will hit the dumbells again just because i like the pain...yea im not right)

Day 2
1 run a mile
2.on a cable machine do some light cross pulls to get your chest loose and then drop the cables down and do some squats like that to loosen your legs.
3. machine or freeweight at this point its about building stamina ( youd be surprised how easy muscle comes on at first) if you elect for freeweights dumbell incline chest presses are the way to go same procedure as before but definitely with a spotter.
4. hammer strength wide chest press...hit your chest from as many different angles as possible this helps to build mass and strength but i would not work all of them into one routine. just use rotate different ones in and out of your routine as you get conditioned to them.
5. squats.....there a killer but gotta do em
6. abs. do what you can
7. go run a mile and then go home.......
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Well, I work out every other day. I don't want to over do it.
It just seems like everyone at school is getting on some sort of juice,:-) and the bad thing is, they are all getting unbelieveably stronger, and well, "huge!"
I'll prob just work out extra hard for a few weeks, until someone really getts me pissed off:-) or I'm not getting the results I want fast enough.
BTW, the place I'm looking at is
http://www.legalsteroids.com
I'm looking at D-BOL, and Deca mostly.
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taylor17 wrote:I've tried creatine, and didn't get the results I wanted.
Smoker, from the stuff on the link you posted, it doesn't look bad.
My work out ruteen consists of doing 8 reps, then adding weight, and doing 6 reps, then adding more weight, and doing 4 reps... and so on until I reach 1 rep. Is this a good ruteen?
There are just so minny choices on things to take, my head is spinning!:-)
BTW, I eat all the time, and can't seem to gain any weight. Like I said, I weigh 110 pounds, it wouldn't take much to see an increase in muscle size.
The more and more I look at NO2, the more I talk myself out of taking it.
Thats not a very healthy/solid routine. You should stick to something like 3 sets of 10. 4 sets of 8-12. One set of 10, followed by a set of 8, followed by a set of 6 (referred to as 10/8/6). You shouldnt be maxing (1 rep) every workout. Something along those lines. Then maybe after a couple weeks do three sets of 5, and finally 5/3/1. You shouldnt even be maxing every week.
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taylor17 wrote:Well, I work out every other day. I don't want to over do it.
It just seems like everyone at school is getting on some sort of juice,:-) and the bad thing is, they are all getting unbelieveably stronger, and well, "huge!"
I'll prob just work out extra hard for a few weeks, until someone really getts me pissed off:-) or I'm not getting the results I want fast enough.
BTW, the place I'm looking at is
http://www.legalsteroids.com
I'm looking at D-BOL, and Deca mostly.
do notttttttttttt go on steroids. I dont see why you would look away from NO2 but contemplate taking steroids. It will be a waste of your money, a waste of your time, a waste of work and a waste of your body's health. You only get one body, its not like you can just go have surgery to change your body.

You are going through a phase, its a high school thing, I know, im in high school right now too, you will regret taking steroids, I almost want to say its 100% you will regret it, but I cant tell you from experience so I wont talk like i know for sure. Is being big really that important to you that you will sacrifice your health down the road? If NO2 crystallizes your blood and causes rapid aging, and thats legal, what do you think steroids do, its a lot more than just testicular effects.

There is a reason it's illegal.
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a guy i know was using roids for a while and guess what? he just went up to indy and had one of his nuts x-rayd and he is going to lose it.....hell get a new one but it wont work it will just be for show..........
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Hay Taylor, as a former skinny kid, I feel your pain. I was 5/9 and 135lb till I hit 22. I lifted and tried all kinds of drinks and pills, while I was in high school and shortly after, and never had any good results. I even went thru basic training and didn't gain a lb. I did however find an excelent program about 2 years ago, and now I am pushin 170 to 175lbs. Keep in mind a program that works well for a person with a slower metabolism than ours will not do crap for someone like us. Its all about finding what works for you, and changing it a little every few weeks to keep your body guessing.

Here is the basics to my program.

I lift 3 times a week, and do some martial arts training 2 times a week.
my lifting program splits the muscle groups into 3 days,and then changes the lifts I do for each muscle group every week. (example: week 1 I will do and incline bench on my chest day, and on week 2 I will do decline bench)
I do one set of 10 to 12 reps (warmup) and then do 2 sets of 4 to 6 reps.
once I can do 8 reps on my second or third set I go up in weight. I found that if I do to many reps I deplet my body to the point it can not rebuild the muscle. So I don't see any gains. If you want a full break down of my program look into the MENS HEALTH HARD BODY PLAN. Thats the book I got my program out of.

As for my diet I eat 5 to 6 times a day. Two of those meals fall right around my workout for the day. The first is a about 30 min before my workout. (complex carbs to give me energy for my workout), and the second is a protien shake (with glutamine added) within 30 min after my workout, to help with muscle growth. I also take beta-gen 3 times a day, and NO2 every couple of months.

I hope that helps some. I know what its like to be in your shoes, and it drove me nuts when I was your age. Check out menshealth.com if you need and food ideas, or any questions about supliments. They have helped me greatly over the last few years.
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