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I'm new to this forum... and plz forgive me for my spelling.
I know that a lot of people are on this forum, and figured this would be a good place to talk about this topic. I'm 17, and pretty small, I'm 5 FT 5 and weigh maybe 110 pounds, to give you an idea.
So, There are a few people at my school who started taking some kind of stairroyd, think it is calld something like Decca. He has saw incredable results with it... he whent from maxing 225 pounds on the binch, to 300 pounds. This was with in a good 6 months. Not to mintion the muscle growth he saw..
So, my question is, have any of you tried this, or something close to it, or if you know anything that isn't quite as riskey either, like that new stuff called like, no2?
Any input would be helpfull.
Thanks.
I know that a lot of people are on this forum, and figured this would be a good place to talk about this topic. I'm 17, and pretty small, I'm 5 FT 5 and weigh maybe 110 pounds, to give you an idea.
So, There are a few people at my school who started taking some kind of stairroyd, think it is calld something like Decca. He has saw incredable results with it... he whent from maxing 225 pounds on the binch, to 300 pounds. This was with in a good 6 months. Not to mintion the muscle growth he saw..
So, my question is, have any of you tried this, or something close to it, or if you know anything that isn't quite as riskey either, like that new stuff called like, no2?
Any input would be helpfull.
Thanks.
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Dude lay off the roids...especially the hemmorhoids......just kidding... i have used no2 and to be quite honest with you its ok but in all seriousness check out the beverly international stuff. it is definitely worth the money although it is less than the no2 or comparable. it takes more than just one product though, you need to look into mass aminos and get the big 50 dollar jug it will last about a month and take one for every 10lbs of body weight a day along with several protein shakes a day and beverly has a couple that you can blend to combine them and you can get recipes for cakes and stuff from them too out of their magazine. Also use their product called muscle synergy, it has hmb in it and it is fantastic but follow the instructions to the letter you need to use it with creatine for a while and then with glutamine for a while and this stuff actually works real well together but you better hit the weights HARD!!!!!! i was spending 10 hrs a week at the gym and at 220 lbs was maxing a 400 lb bench. when you think youve had enough get a jug of water and hit it again.
haha
So, you didn't like NO2? See, the other bad thing is, I don't like being on a strict diet, or having to take a crap load of supplments. I used createen for a while, but got tired of mixing it with orange juice, and drinking that everyday, and I wanted more results than that.
I don't want to be huge, but I want to pack on a few pounds, as well as some muscle. This kid at school I'm talking about... he started to get freakishly big... everyone started to notice that he was getting too big, to fast, too not to be on something. I think that he stopped.
I want to try some, but I'm pretty sure its not leagle, or prob not that healthy either! Thats why I was looking at things like NO2, pretty safe, and it supposidly gives the results I'm wanting.
So, you didn't like NO2? See, the other bad thing is, I don't like being on a strict diet, or having to take a crap load of supplments. I used createen for a while, but got tired of mixing it with orange juice, and drinking that everyday, and I wanted more results than that.
I don't want to be huge, but I want to pack on a few pounds, as well as some muscle. This kid at school I'm talking about... he started to get freakishly big... everyone started to notice that he was getting too big, to fast, too not to be on something. I think that he stopped.
I want to try some, but I'm pretty sure its not leagle, or prob not that healthy either! Thats why I was looking at things like NO2, pretty safe, and it supposidly gives the results I'm wanting.
ive used no2, im on the new kind right now, I always have used MRI's No2, none of the other brands..It's pretty beneficial to take, your muscles increase a lot in size and its almost like a drug, you will want to keep taking it.
There are also a couple of kids at my school on steroids, big football players and such. I wouldnt reccomend them.
There are also a couple of kids at my school on steroids, big football players and such. I wouldnt reccomend them.
So you're on NO2? How much of a gain have you seen? Also, have you noticed anything weard while taking it. There is also another brand or something... I think its a nockoff of NO2, but it is called Nitrix. It supposedly does the same thing, and is cheaper... but you get what you pay for 90% of the time.
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dude you gotta sacrifice something to get big. im not huge but im big enough that the little blood pressure machines you sit in at drug store dont work on me. i can get my arm in but dang.......!!!!!!! talk about pain...you want a strict diet? are you a carnivore? eat meat and lots of it.........how hard is that? baked sweet potatoes, broccoli (if you like brocc. that is, its a natural thermogenic and it will help to balance the sugars in you body as well) as far as taking a lot of supplements if you are going to take just one make it muscle synergy even though it requires more stuff (creatine and glutamine) as far as taking creatine dont mix it with juice because high quality creatine is reduced in its effectiveness by the introduction of things like juice or god forbid i have seen people mix it with tea or pop. just take the creatine dose and dump it in your mouth and then take a swallow of water. it is pretty much flavorless and its over with pretty quick plus you know you are getting the full dose. but anyway
muscle synergy was tested on patients in the final stages of aids and this is the stage where people start to lose their muscle mass and on average they gained six pounds of muscle without working out. and it goes without saying that you really need to drink a lot of water with any of this stuff.........
muscle synergy was tested on patients in the final stages of aids and this is the stage where people start to lose their muscle mass and on average they gained six pounds of muscle without working out. and it goes without saying that you really need to drink a lot of water with any of this stuff.........
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http://www.beverlyinternational.net/pro ... ynergy.pdf
do yourself a favor and read this...it is all high quality and worth the money and if you order direct you get it cheaper than at the gym or gnc.
do yourself a favor and read this...it is all high quality and worth the money and if you order direct you get it cheaper than at the gym or gnc.
The best muscle-growth stimulator is .... food! And some multivitamin everyday.
If you're serious about gaining weight, then start eating more each day and develop a plan of exercise each week. Let your body grow on its own. If you introduce any foreign substances to stimulate that growth, the conseuquences may be severe down the road.
Who cares if you are not going to look like Arnold or the school jock? The most important goal is to stay healthy and be fairly strong in your particular body type.
If you're serious about gaining weight, then start eating more each day and develop a plan of exercise each week. Let your body grow on its own. If you introduce any foreign substances to stimulate that growth, the conseuquences may be severe down the road.
Who cares if you are not going to look like Arnold or the school jock? The most important goal is to stay healthy and be fairly strong in your particular body type.
what everyone is saying is pretty much accurate. You are going to want to eat quite a bit, but dont just eat meats. I would go with something like 40/30/10 as far as the percentage of calories you get from carbs/proteins/fats. Of course that means you will be eating very little fat, as fat has double the calories per gram vs. a protein, or carb. I agree with nist that you will want to bulk up by eating food, but before you go on NO2 or another hemodilator, I would try creatine, ive known many people to get pretty large with a balanced diet and creatine.
You will also want to stay away from NO2 and NO2 knockoffs as it is a hemodilator. (or vasodilator, if you've heard that term) basically its a blood thinner. If you have any heart/cardio medical conditions you should talk to your doctor first. Although it will probably make you healthier
Lowers your blood pressure (hypothetically)
There are so many supplements out there, I reccomend NO2 because it worked for me, but I have heard many people say it does not work for them, and I have read reviews saying it is different for everyone.
Side effects? One thing is that it gives you erections, they just sort of come on. I will be in class and just from moving a wrong way or rubbing up against something I will suddenly have a boner, and they are pretty damn hard, not just a little excitement. That is the truth too, something I noticed was more frequent. Another thing is when you start taking it you can tend to feel like you are hungry a lot, but you are really not. You should buy the book for NO2, it covers all this including how it works, talks about the Physer3 delivery system, mixing NO2 with Creatine, etc.
Other side effects the book mentions I believe are thicker hair (which I can believe as hair is protein and NO2 contains arginine which is an amino-acid which is for proteins) I am very young so I didnt notice this if it took place. Another they mention is clearer skin, I dont know much about skin so I dont know how that would come about. But there are 3-4 more, all good things, of course.
I asked my chem. teacher last year about hemodilators because I was nervous about taking it at first. She told me they can be harmful if they are taking for extended periods of time. This is why I stopped after three months, she said they will actually form crystals in your blood. So I went off for three months and then came back on and im here now.
Couple things if you plan on taking it: like someone mentioned, drink lots of water, as with any weight lifting supplement, or just weight lifting in general, drink LOTS of water. Not too much though, dont want to cause yourself a seizure! You will also want to be consistent. Try not to miss a day, or miss a time a day. NO2 is taken twice a day, four pills (or five, depending on if you are over 200lbs) at a time. Try not to miss a day, its important, ive found, to be consistent.
Same goes for lifting consistently. Don't take NO2 and go to the gym 2 times a week. You need to lift consistently and you need to lift somewhat hard and serious. You will want a good schedule/program that fits your needs. You may want to start out at about 10-12 reps, and as you get stronger, work down to 8 or 6. Then, after doing some sets of 8 for a couple weeks, go back up to 12, then back down to 6. Find what you like and go with it if you are seeing results.
Forgot to mention another thing...if you are young, which I believe you are 17 you said? (I am too) you will not want to take hemodilators for long periods of time as I mentioned before because it will cause you to age extremeley fast when you hit 30 or so. I wish I could explain this biologically or chemically but I do not remember why my teacher said so.
You will also want to stay away from NO2 and NO2 knockoffs as it is a hemodilator. (or vasodilator, if you've heard that term) basically its a blood thinner. If you have any heart/cardio medical conditions you should talk to your doctor first. Although it will probably make you healthier
There are so many supplements out there, I reccomend NO2 because it worked for me, but I have heard many people say it does not work for them, and I have read reviews saying it is different for everyone.
Side effects? One thing is that it gives you erections, they just sort of come on. I will be in class and just from moving a wrong way or rubbing up against something I will suddenly have a boner, and they are pretty damn hard, not just a little excitement. That is the truth too, something I noticed was more frequent. Another thing is when you start taking it you can tend to feel like you are hungry a lot, but you are really not. You should buy the book for NO2, it covers all this including how it works, talks about the Physer3 delivery system, mixing NO2 with Creatine, etc.
Other side effects the book mentions I believe are thicker hair (which I can believe as hair is protein and NO2 contains arginine which is an amino-acid which is for proteins) I am very young so I didnt notice this if it took place. Another they mention is clearer skin, I dont know much about skin so I dont know how that would come about. But there are 3-4 more, all good things, of course.
I asked my chem. teacher last year about hemodilators because I was nervous about taking it at first. She told me they can be harmful if they are taking for extended periods of time. This is why I stopped after three months, she said they will actually form crystals in your blood. So I went off for three months and then came back on and im here now.
Couple things if you plan on taking it: like someone mentioned, drink lots of water, as with any weight lifting supplement, or just weight lifting in general, drink LOTS of water. Not too much though, dont want to cause yourself a seizure! You will also want to be consistent. Try not to miss a day, or miss a time a day. NO2 is taken twice a day, four pills (or five, depending on if you are over 200lbs) at a time. Try not to miss a day, its important, ive found, to be consistent.
Same goes for lifting consistently. Don't take NO2 and go to the gym 2 times a week. You need to lift consistently and you need to lift somewhat hard and serious. You will want a good schedule/program that fits your needs. You may want to start out at about 10-12 reps, and as you get stronger, work down to 8 or 6. Then, after doing some sets of 8 for a couple weeks, go back up to 12, then back down to 6. Find what you like and go with it if you are seeing results.
Forgot to mention another thing...if you are young, which I believe you are 17 you said? (I am too) you will not want to take hemodilators for long periods of time as I mentioned before because it will cause you to age extremeley fast when you hit 30 or so. I wish I could explain this biologically or chemically but I do not remember why my teacher said so.