5 8's or 1 12??

swimmerdude · Post by **swimmerdude** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:59 pm

I am at a dilemma here.... I really like the Eclipse Titanium, its a high end sub, it will get loud and sound good. The thought of getting 8's has come to me and it seems like a killer idea. I was looking into getting around 5 8" Ascendant Assassins. Main guestion is.... which will get louder?? I will be putting like 800 or 900rms on the Eclipse and 200rms a piece on the assassins that have a recommended power of 150 and an rms of 350?? What is up with that??

High Society · Post by **High Society** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:05 pm

I'm Sure 5 8's will get louder then 1 12. But at the price of a Ti. say 400 or more? You can get 8 RE8's :) Which what I would suggest. I think ascendent has sold out of the assassin lines. And they have been in a bind, as of lately so I would watch be careful if you go that way.

My vote would be on six re 8's. can be wired at a 1 ohm load.

swimmerdude · Post by **swimmerdude** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:16 pm

Well.... $330 for a TI on ebay....

The Assassins are cheaper than the RE's... 45 compared to 56. When getting 6 of them... the difference is 66 bucks... BUT.... do the Assassins reguire more power because their site says 150 recommended power and 350rms. So... is 150rms sufficient or should they be getting something more like 300rms??

If i keep stock alt.... i can prolly have a max of 1000rms in my Explorer which means 166rms to 6 subs or 200rms to 5 subs.

ridr4lif · Post by **ridr4lif** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:29 pm

I would go the route Matt mentioned. 5 subs wired together would produce a wierd load on your amp.

Remember, it takes double the power to gain 3db's. So having 34 less watts isnt gonna make a huge difference.

swimmerdude · Post by **swimmerdude** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:16 pm

what about 4 10's vs 6 8's of the same model.... im just throwing around ideas here.... just to see what you guys think.

Darthness · Post by **Darthness** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:35 pm

depends on a lot of things... obviously 5 8's will out do the 1 12".. but it depends on the box, power, etc.

lotas · Post by **lotas** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:40 pm

I'm not a huge fan of those weird configs. like 6 8" woofers...why not just get 1 12"? I know it seems like a cool idea now, but think about the enclosure, the wiring, the trunk, the space, the amplifier, make sure you can accomodate for all that before you decide to go that route. Just something to ponder.

Darthness · Post by **Darthness** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:54 am

well... 6 8's will be alot louder then 1 12", imo. how is it a weird config? you could use the same amp for 1 12 as 6 8"s im sure.

JL Man · Post by **JL Man** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:06 am

now i'm just throwing in my 6 cents. but uh, you like skipped over 10's . . do you not like 10's?

Robert Wollenberg · Post by **Robert Wollenberg** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:50 am

If you're trying to determine what would be louder, try this. You gain three db for every doubling of power. So, if you're using 1k for example to 1 12" and that 12" has a sensitivity of 87 lets say, you'll get a gain of about 30 db for a total output of about 117 db, not accounting for cabin gain, gains from enclosure, etc. Now, take your 8". If you have 6 8" subs that have a sensitivity of 91 lets say. You add 6 db for each additional driver and if you have in the area of 200 watts going to each one, you'll have 91 + 30 for the additional drivers and another 22 or so for the power for a total of about 143. If you're using a hatch you can add 6 db for that too I think plus what ever gain your enclosure might be giving you if you're going ported or what ever. That math should work out pretty damn close to right each time.

Seminars are cool. :)