Question about liberals

lotas · Post by **lotas** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:50 pm

I don't know, maybe you guys can help me understand this a little. Im in a Government/Politics class right now so im pretty into all this but.

Typically, actors and actresses tend to be democrats, agree? Same with public school teachers, union members, african-americans and women etc.

Conservatives are all for capitalism. A conservative stands for economic freedom and social order. Capitalism is government hands-off, driven by the invisible hand of profit, and is fueled by competition. Through capitalism, there are big gains in money.

Therefore if you are a liberal, you are not for capitalism, you are for economic equality. (Of course there is Libertarian and Authoritarian but disregarding those just speaking generally)

I do not understand why actors and actresses tend to be liberal when they are making millions and millions of dollars due to capitalism. It frustrates me. Cross-pressure is the idea of conflicting demographics, for instance, a CEO of a business who is a black woman. That is cross-pressure because a CEO of a company would tend to favor conservative views but their demographic of a black woman would point them in the liberal direction.

Although actors/actresses face this, it seems they are not seeing it as that, they just seem ignorant. Almost to the point to where they don't even understand the principles behind conservatives/liberals, they just sort of jump on the bandwagon and call themselves liberals.

I don't see how you could make millions and millions of dollars and love what you are doing, yet push for economic freedom. It doesn't make sense.

Am I missing something?

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:28 am

Actors are not known to be the smartest people out there...

They favor such topics as it makes the lesser people like them.

Movies are almost all fantasies. So the movie makes you feel good, scared or laugh. Then the actor is talking about real life issues and may be"pulling" for your cause...

SO you go buy their movies... Or goto the movies to watch them...

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:38 am

its easy to be liberal when it doesnt affect you......... angelina jo lie or however it is spelled for example.......pretty rich gal, very liberal and trots around the world doing good for others adopting children and looking hot in a village somewhere.....not bad for anyone because her liberal view are social......if she were a politician though im not sure her mentalityreflects that of the populas

Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:49 am

wow^ i have nothing else to say other than wow^

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:21 am

Ryan from Ohio wrote:Actors are not known to be the smartest people out there...

They favor such topics as it makes the lesser people like them.

Movies are almost all fantasies. So the movie makes you feel good, scared or laugh. Then the actor is talking about real life issues and may be"pulling" for your cause...

SO you go buy their movies... Or goto the movies to watch them...

i watch movies for pure entertainment....i dont need to fell connected to, or politically or socialy supportive of the actors involved.....i pays my money and i want to be amused for 90 minutes.....i like samuel L. jackson as an actor but i think hes an ass , i saw a show where he was shooting baskets and they told him to pretend he was shooting someone he didnt like and he said george bush........im pretty sure that tom cruise and i would differ on a lot of issues but anybody that explain drafting using sugar packets and nicole kidmans leg has probably managed to entertain my feeble mind......and i dont know why those starving kids dont just eat sally struthers or at least jack her purse and eat all the twinkies and shit she has stockpiled in there.........you dont get an ass like that eating rice cakes........the only thing saving her is the cameraman........how about kanye west? anybody feel connected to this guy or anyghing he says or does? i watched 20/20 last night and barbara walters called him on something he said once and he was like "i said that? sometimes i say things just to F@@@ with people"..........and the grandmaster entertainer of all of them peter griffin....hot daughter, hot wife, talking dog, son is hung like a horse and his baby while of questionable sexuality is nonetheless a genius......the man goes to work, drinks beer with his buddies and beds down his wife........he is the example of true americana....work hard, party hard, love your family......

Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:33 am

i couldnt agree more, i cannot stand kanye west he is by far the most frustrating person i have ever seen. I have nothing against any other race but this man drives me insane. He is a racist listen to what he says he hates Caucasians. I don’t understand it im tired of here this minority should get this they should get that! Bull shit we are all equal get treated like it u should get special treatment because of your color like affirmative action! Total bullshit in my mind. U want to be equal quit wining for free benefits…. This may be out of my bounds here but this is how I feel this may be removed by the moderators and I understand your position however I do believe that it is wrong because I no longer have my free speech rights because it may offend someone else. But if you call me a cracker and im affended it makes me a racist. Ok im done with this subject.

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me "cracker," "honkey," "whitey," and even "the man," and you think it's ok. But when I call, "nigger," "kike," "towelhead," "sand-nigger," "camel jockey," "beaner," or "chink," you call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live

You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashoah.
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You have BET.

If we had WET (white entertainment television) we'd be racists.

If we had a White Pride Day you would call us racists.

If we had white history month, we'd be racists.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You call each other "niggas", but when we call you that, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am white.
I am proud.
I am an American.

But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?

do you agree? your not racist if you do!

*I'd like to add a little something. Blacks, browns, red, yellow, and even white... all of these "colors" were enslaved at one time. Both here in the United States, and else where in the world. Example... for those who don't believe me or don't pay attention in history... when the Irish came to America... they were treated as a free black slave (if any of you know anything, it wasn't much better then being a slave). They later became slaves working on railroads and other construction, and yes they were white and slaves. Back during the gladiator days if you lost a battle, and still lived... it didn't matter about your color.. you were a slave (most were white). So for all those people who feel they should be compensated for their ancestors, remember your "color" wasn't the only one who were slaved or mistreated; also it was your ancestor and not you. Learn from history, don't repeate it or live in it.

*i just want to add that my opinions do not reflect the others of this board or any of my sponors/club members. my opinions are my sole responsibility and not those of the amdimistrators, moderators, sponsors or my club.*

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:19 am

i had to reread my post bill......i didnt think i inspired that just wanted to make sure.

Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:24 am

lol the kanye west thing set it off i guess... but that is how i feel and i dont need to hide it if anyone disagrees thats kewl thats the good thing about america... ur close to 1000 what do you have in store for us?

lotas · Post by **lotas** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:53 am

yeah Bill I really like that bit about "You call me....You have... but I'm a racist" that's been floating around the internet a lot lately, and I really think it's true.

I cannot believe Kanye West...saying on national television "George Bush hates black people" that is the most idiotic and ignorant thing you could possibly say. It's pretty much revealing your stupidity and lack of knowledge on the subject.

OnYrMrk · Post by **OnYrMrk** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:54 am

Bumper sticker on old Ford Pickup here in OKC

"If we had known it was going to be this big a problem, we would have picked our own damn cotton"