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hate to break it to ya Mack, but 70+% of your audio comes from your front stage. It's the most important part of the audio system. subs are subs. substantial bass isn't all that hard to make, and people who blow tons of money on subs and enormous amounts of power on a daily driver, with cheap coaxials up front run by the ehad unit, have very skewed priorities compared to someone who spent $1500 on power AND good components for the front stage, but hey what do I know?

a head unit isn't that vital. hell, some people do good systems with a stock factory radio.
amplifiers are just that. transparent sources of power. a watt is a watt, and if the amp works, it's doing it's job. again, not something you could tell one brand from another without looking.
subs? heh ok. You can make nearly any sub sound from amazing to crap with the right box, or lack of it. This has been proven many, many times.. an S12L7 in an aperiodic box won SQ events, and cheap AB and Sony subs win SPL events, so while a better sub can make a difference, it's still not the most vital step of the system design.

Now your components.. install, angle, signal path, crossovers, and driver timbre. These are things you just can't fake. You buy right, and set it up right, and power it right, or EQ it to shape the response properly, or you get a system that sounds like a fart-harmonica. end of story.

While $500 isn't an unreasonable amount of money to drop on the front stage, and you can do fairly well for that much depending on the rest of the system.. telling someone that he's an idiot for spending $1700 on his front stage is just rude, and ignorant. Hey, I spent $12,00 on my front speakers, and the amp was another $1,250, and that's not including labor to fiberglass the speaker locations, the time to figure speaker positions and angles, 1/3 octave EQ tuning and RTA time, or the time and expense of hand built passive crossovers for the 3-way components. Am I even more "stupid" than Justin?

OK I could spend 500 of that 1700 on my frontstage and be completely happy, then spend the other 1200 on house payment, car payment or charity... thats what I see. im not looking to get into my car and look at my speakers and be like Damn i coulda paid this months mortage and a car payment. I wanne get in my car, turn the radio on and be satisfied with the outcome. and for me thats not too hard, I had a set of JBL GTO 6.5''s and two infinity kappa 12''s in a sealed box off a jbl 755.6 and GTO 6x9s in the back. I loved that system. there was almost enough bass , and the speakers kept up more then enough. I apologize for saying he was stupid, i dont think thats ignorant cause thats my opinion and ingnorant means stupid and im far from stupid.

and i didnt say the REV system was 600, i said the ADS an DLS where 600 bucks

pioneer rev comps,DLs and ADS those where amazing but over 600 dollars

sure looks like it to me? no offense man but thats what it looks like.

Not to me cause if you notice there isnnt a , mar bewteen DLS and ADS isolating those the 600 dollars but who cares

Ignorance occurs when those who can benefit from knowledge are unwilling or unable to find or assimilate the knowledge.
My issue was not with your system, your spending habits, your financial insecurity, or anything else about you other than your accusation of stupidity toward a member and administrator of this forum. You're entitled to your opinions, right up until they become a personal attack. At that point your opinions become my business as a forum moderator.

Grammatic error. If you wanted to separate those, you should have ended the sentence and started a new thought. The translation of your meaning was fair, if incorrect.

Now that this is all settled, I believe we can go back to finding you the right components for your system. Have a good day.

o well sh!t happens, this is a car audio forum not Hooked on fonics lol... i made a mistake and i apologize, i honestly didnt mean to say anyone person who invest or invested 1700 in the front stage was stupid. i meant that i thought it was a stupid to do that for my given situation and system wants/needs. My fault

then there's no problem

That's cool at most other forums this would have been a 12 page pissing contest that eventually would have to be locked to avoid slapping and hair pulling.... That's why I come back here

its all about being adults. well im only 17 , but only for 3 more weeks. but I know when to be mature and accept my faults. I apreciate all the information I am getting here even though everyone hates my front stage Idea im still going to try it, gotta learn from my mistakes. Who knows I might really enjoy it, and might hate it. The power of re-sale