weird problem!!! plz help

tobler · Post by **tobler** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:55 pm

recently i've purchased 4 pioneer 6x9" speaker
it's rocks amazing but when i hook up them on amp in parallel i heard shitty sound
so i decided to check the polarity but i found there is nothing wrong
but when i do the speaker test with battery :
(i connected battery direct to the speaker )
2 speaker move upward and 2 speaker move downward !!!!!
i searched about this problem and i found this article on basic car audio
(http://www.bcae1.com/speaker.htm
NOTE:
I've heard about at least one speaker manufacturer that makes their drivers with the polarity opposite of the above diagram. It is a company that makes drivers for use in commercial PA cabinets, so you won't likely see them in cars.)

so when i connect 2 speaker parallel that move downward on amp channel 1
and connect other parallel that move upward on amp channel 2
the sound is amazing!!!
so what suppose to do now?
is keep it
or
change the original polarity for the speaker move downward

and plz can i know that wrong polarity harm the speaker?

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:41 pm

Wrong polarity wont harm a speaker, unless its a DVC and you have each coil wired differently.

Whats happening is one or more of your speakers is running out of phase.

I havent ever seen a manufacturer make that kind of a mistake before.

Quadruple check YOUR wiring, as Im positive thats where the problem is.

tobler · Post by **tobler** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:25 pm

noo the wiring isn't the problem as i mentioned before i used battery to test the speaker direct without any wire
and to make sure i tested it again after ur post
same result!!

Justin from Detroit1 · Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:20 pm

its not a big deal. Yo uprobably wouldn't even be ale to tell an audible difference if the speaker was in phase or out of phase

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:08 am

are you running a set of wires back to the amp for each individual speaker? with coax and triax and god forbid the 4 and 5 way 6x9's that pioneer makes ive seen phase shift issues when people daisy chain the wire from one speaker to the next....

tobler · Post by **tobler** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:18 pm

smoker wrote:are you running a set of wires back to the amp for each individual speaker? with coax and triax and god forbid the 4 and 5 way 6x9's that pioneer makes ive seen phase shift issues when people daisy chain the wire from one speaker to the next....

heyy people i said that the wiring is not my problem
I CONNECTED BATTERY TO THE SPEAKERRRRRRR DIRECTTTTTT
NEGATIVE WITH NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE WITH POSTIVE
TWO SPEAKER MOVE UPWARD
AND 2 SPEAKER MOVE DOWNWARD!!

(4X PIONEEER 6X9" 350W 3-WAY TS-A6971E)
AND YES IT'S ORIGINAL
I BOUGHT THEM FROM PIONEER DISTRIBUTORS

Scarrell · Post by **Scarrell** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:23 pm

if two move up, and two move down, then you have your speakers wired wrong.. and thats all there is to it..

Team AI · Post by **Team AI** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:52 pm

I do believe what people are saying here is that if two of you speakers are out of phase it won't really hurt anything. If it bothers you that much then change your wiring by wiring the two that are out of phase backwards and bam they are in phase

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:22 pm

tobler wrote:heyy people i said that the wiring is not my problem
I CONNECTED BATTERY TO THE SPEAKERRRRRRR DIRECTTTTTT
NEGATIVE WITH NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE WITH POSTIVE
TWO SPEAKER MOVE UPWARD
AND 2 SPEAKER MOVE DOWNWARD!!
(4X PIONEEER 6X9" 350W 3-WAY TS-A6971E)
AND YES IT'S ORIGINAL
I BOUGHT THEM FROM PIONEER DISTRIBUTORS

well i guess you got this shit all figured out then dont ya......

qlc1964 · Post by **qlc1964** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:34 am

okay sense you say it`s not the wiring hook them up the way you said they sound bad turn the balance left to right and see if theres a difference with the bass notes if it is the palority is crossed.