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Worst Nightmare wrote:I have a Dodge Ram 5.9 (360ci) V8.
Really, how many trannys have you gone through thus far? :happy055:

Glass knows his stuff, you should see is charger he's building... NICE!

Even if you feel he's wrong you should go about telling him in a nicer manor, I'll telling you this just like I told the other guys in your kicker thread... Easy going forum here, we dont want no drama...
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Worst Nightmare wrote:DUDE - are you thinking INTAKE? No throttle body I've EVER seen has coolant run thru.
You MUST be thinking intake.....
I believe some of the newer rangers have coolant running through the tb, alot of the guys are bypassing it though.. I'll look into real quick and make sure Im not wrong...
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Ok, Jesus Christ dude, Is this a 2005 Charger Or a 1968 Charger

BIG DIFFERENCE!

don't know about newer rangers. maybe they do bypass. seem kinda weird...
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Worst Nightmare wrote:Ok, Jesus Christ dude, Is this a 2005 Charger Or a 1968 Charger
BIG DIFFERENCE!
don't know about newer rangers. maybe they do bypass. seem kinda weird...
1966 Charger. Take a chill pill and don't bring Jesus into it, he's not taking sides!
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:) I figured. I bleed charger orange/mopar myself. Don't get offended, please.
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Worst Nightmare wrote:Ok, Jesus Christ dude, Is this a 2005 Charger Or a 1968 Charger
BIG DIFFERENCE!
Like I said, stick to what you know!
Ok , jesus. I don't want any drama either. I'll catch you guys on the car audio side.
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Oh wow, ok... Youre right, I dont know anything about cars... :banghead

Heres my project... http://www.sounddomain.com/ride/2174205/1

I regret rebuilding the 4.3 tbi instead of dropping in a 350 tbi... As you know the 350 and 4.3 share the same bellhousing, as well as the same harnass, which means its all just plugs right in... Very little to change around...

Post a link to your truck, though its probably alot nicer then mine...
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MobileAudio219 wrote:Oh wow, ok... Youre right, I dont know anything about cars... :banghead
Heres my project... http://www.sounddomain.com/ride/2174205/1
I regret rebuilding the 4.3 tbi instead of dropping in a 350 tbi... As you know the 350 and 4.3 share the same bellhousing, as well as the same harnass, which means its all just plugs right in... Very little to change around...
Post a link to your truck, though its probably alot nicer then mine...

No way dude. It's all about the hobby. I don't care what folks have, Ford Lightning truck (which I HATE (or LOVE in some perverted way) or Dodge HEMI (I also HATE, even though I have a 1998 360ci model).

It's ALL ABOUT THE HOBBY!

Love you man!
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Here's a link w/ me recent home:

http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/garage. ... entid=5384

Got more pics of the mods that claimed 5sec 0-60. Let me know......
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Now we're getting into the nasty stuff where we REALLY need to take the specific application in mind.
Worst Nightmare wrote:I just want to explain a little further......

To be exact: I have a Dodge Ram 5.9 (360ci) V8.

Glasswolf - stick to things you know (maybe car audio?) but definitely not new car/truck performance.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but ALLLLLLLLL new transmissions have OVERDRIVE, or 5 speed, which negates your gas mileage because of overgearing theory.

It's still a lower gear, and will still eat away your mileage in your average application. In your case, you're talking about a heavy truck that will most likely benefit from the torque multiplication in a real world application (passing, steep hills, etc.). You've also added larger tires in the process, which makes the steep gear comparatively less aggressive. Plus you have to consider that trucks get crap for gas mileage to begin with, most people wouldn't even notice the drop in economy considering how much your mileage will already vary due to driving conditions.

With a lighter vehicle like a Mustang, Camaro, Charger, etc., I feel a 3.73 is about as steep as you need to go for a good all around combination of acceleration and fuel economy. You usually won't kill your top speed either since the extra torque multiplication lets you wind higher in OD.

Let's keep it civil here, though :teach :. He knows a lot about building performance in a wide variety of applications. Noone ever became a master of anything by believing that he/she knows more than those around him. Usually it results in getting your ass handed to you by your competition :) .

Worst Nightmare wrote:and ceramic coating not even relevent! My JBA titanium ceramic only controls under hood temps. (they claim!)

Sure it's relevant. The exhaust system is responsible for removing half the heat of an engine. You'd much rather have that heat underneath the car than you would radiating to the rest of the engine, not just for power's sake, but also for the reliability of the electronics and "soft parts" like hoses, wires, belts, etc. You'll also have gains since the entire induction system is much cooler, but it's just not something most people are going to measure because it's a bit too "real world". I don't know of anyone that runs a car on a dyno with a hot engine bay, a closed hood, and having run the car for hours :D . All are trying to keep things nice and cool and pull the biggest power numbers they can, esp. considering that dyno runs aren't cheap.
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Worst Nightmare wrote:No way dude. It's all about the hobby. I don't care what folks have, Ford Lightning truck (which I HATE (or LOVE in some perverted way) or Dodge HEMI (I also HATE, even though I have a 1998 360ci model).
It's ALL ABOUT THE HOBBY!
Love you man!
When I picked up the 4.3 I had the intention on building it for decent power, but then after I got it I decided that I wanted to do a v8... BUT I already bought the motor and was in a hurry to get the truck finished so I gave her a quick freshin up and threw her in... Motor turn out peeeeeerrrrrrrrrrfect.. Basically I'm going to pick up a 350 here shortly and do a little work on it, maybe bore it to a 355, install the newer vortec heads, intake, tbi adapter, 454 thottle body, cam, etc... Nothing crazy, just wake it up a bit... But yeah, I want have it finished before next winter...

But it took me forever to find a 1st gen, 2dr, 2wd, 4.3, 5 speed blazer that didnt have any rust... I'm going with a sport truck theme, picture a gmc typhoon but a with n/a 350 and and 5 speed... Going to paint it black and switch the interior over to black with leather.... Should look pretty decent...
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