Bang for the Buck Subs

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:58 am

Cheap subs that sound good.

Defining cheap- around $150 or less per sub...

Keep in mind this is more of an sql/spl project...

Resonant Engineering RE
JL Audio W0
Kicker Comp VRs
ARC Audio KAR Series
Adire Audio Shiva
" Tempest
Elemental Designs Ov.2
Sound Splinter RL-p
Ascendant Audio Atlas 12/15
Alpine Type R
Infinity Perfect

Scope of the project:
We will make two databases. 1) will be the super subs. Total potential displacements, then factor in the cost. This should yield a "value per liter"
2) List will be bang for the buck. Same thing, but for people on limited budgets...

spkrman · Post by **spkrman** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:08 am

I wouldn't put the w0 on that list... they really arent that good.

If you just want a JL sub, and you don't care if its loud at all... then i suppose the w0 works.

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:52 am

The JL Wo sounds alright, it is what it is. A Cheap sub with limited xmax...

IMHO and many others it falls into the bang for the buck still :)

You get a world class QUALITY product from a well respected manufacturer for around $125. True it doesnt hold a candle to the like of a RE 12" RE, but its still holds its own.

spkrman · Post by **spkrman** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:22 pm

Ryan from Ohio wrote:The JL Wo sounds alright, it is what it is. A Cheap sub with limited xmax...

IMHO and many others it falls into the bang for the buck still :)

You get a world class QUALITY product from a well respected manufacturer for around $125. True it doesnt hold a candle to the like of a RE 12" RE, but its still holds its own.

w0 is world class quality? It comes from a NAME that makes the w7.. and has been making superb subs for a while.. thats all.

Just like the COMP from kicker, its a waste, the CVR is pennies more and worlds better.

w0 just isn't worth it.

and lol, have you used an RE 12? I can't comment on it personally, never actually used/seen one used.

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:37 pm

spkrman wrote:and lol, have you used an RE 12? I can't comment on it personally, never actually used/seen one used.

I guess I am missing what is funny? If your finding humor in my post you are sorely mistaken.

I assume you are lol'ing because you feel you know more about me than I do. Again you are sorely mistaken. But to answer your question I happen to have an RE 12 right behind me and another brand new in my closet. So yes I have, yes I made the comment- NO YOUR NOT FUNNY.

While I will agree there is better subs than the JL W0 in the bang for the buck catagory it still has its place. So quit ragging on it and move on. This is not a debate post, its a post on opinions as to what sub is bang for the buck. Mainly list what you feel is bang for the buck, not try to discredit another sub.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:42 pm

You have to consider what the W0 is aimed towards, it's not just the money, it's about the power. For the power given it is hard to beat for the price. Just because you can fork out $150 for a Comp VR doesn't mean you can fork out the dough for the amplifier to power it or the wiring to power that amplifier. The W0 performs better with 125-150W RMS than a Comp VR does.

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:44 pm

Point proven....

spkrman · Post by **spkrman** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:21 pm

I got both my compVR's for 140, brand new... and they are 170 or so for a pair of 12's shipped on ebay.

power is cheap... a 600 watt amp can be had for 100 bux... and a 4ga kit for 30.

the w0 is fairly effeciant, but only if you are sending it literally next to nothing, it can't handle power worth a poo, and also doesnt get loud worth a poo. I'd venture to say the CVR would be louder even with 150 watts, this of course depends on install... but lets assume it was in a typical prefab sealed box... the CVR would eat the w0 and cost less.

RE 12, how's it treating you? The 8's are pretty sweet for the $, nothing out of this world though.

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:45 pm

Last time, this is not a debate- quit debating!

State the bang for buck sub and move on.

CompVRs are listed, anything else you would like to add.

The completed 12 is not mine and I havent been able to test it yet. Watch the product review section. I should be testing the other one by next week.

Furthermore this topic will stay on track from this post on out or I will edit the off track info out!

spkrman · Post by **spkrman** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:03 pm

In that case, I nominate funky pups

buy a 6 pack and wang away