Airforceyooper wrote:Again I can't get to the last page of the thread. Anyway, I wanted to comment on something someone said a couple pages ago about it being nearly inpossible to come here legally. It only seems to be a problem for people from Mexico. Nobody else seems to have as difficult a time. Or they do, but they're more willing to deal with it. Either way, coming here illegally isn't acceptable.
your right about the majority of people have problems getting papers are Mexicans. Their country is huge and their quota fills up particularly fast. This is the quota:
While family members of U.S. citizens remained the largest category of immigrants, the act established a separate annual quota of 140,000 for immigrants with job skills needed in the United States. Responding to pressure from various lobby groups, the 1990 act granted annual quotas of 40,000 to 55,000 to countries that had sent few immigrants in recent years.
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/ ... 66973&pn=4
As you see on the CIAs website there is an estimation of the population of all the countries in the world (
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/fac ... 9rank.html ). Mexico is 13th with 107 million people. the next country that would reasonably come here for work would be Colombia which is 30th with a population of 43 million and after that its Ecuador coming in at 66th with a population of 13 million. Mexico is substantially larger than the other countires
OnYrMrk wrote:
You don't hear Canadians bitching about not getting the same rights as we do. If they want it bad enough, they will get the proper documentation to become a US citizen. You don't hear of the Asian's or the Middle Easterner's leaving their jobs to support the Mexican immigrants. Afterall, they are immigrants too. Why is that. Why were the chinese food places open and the colleges were still filled with the other immigrants...why was it only the mexicans who marched? If this was a march for immigrant rights, shouldn't the others (asian, mid east, canada, russian, poland, austrailian, german, english, irish, scottish...I could go on), why didn't they join in the march. Because they respect what this Country has to offer, and they are trying to better themselves to become a bonified US Citizen.
This is also ties into what I’m saying. All of the other immigrants are legal citizens (for the most part) (it wasnt only mexicans that joined the rally. cubans ecuadorians and colombians were there also). That’s why they aren’t joining the rally. They came here legally because their quota isn’t unremittingly filled up. people from well-to-do countries aren’t going to come flocking here for work because they have plenty of jobs in their own country. Even if they did want to work here, they could relatively easily (due to the large quota and small amount of applicants).
For the other countries that aren’t “well-to-do” I’m sure they would love to come here but its just not economically logical to buy a plane ticket, come here and work illegally with the chance of deportation, therefore, what they do is go to a country around them which they can work in i.e. germany, england, france, spain, denmark, or finland just to name a few. Even if they did want to buy a plain ticket and come here it would be comparatively hard because of the immigration (from oversea’s).
I have also saw that a large amount of you have said “if you want it bad enough they could get it”. I don’t see anyway that they could speed up the process or do anything differently because it is done by lottery. Yeah sure they can wait but there is no guarantee at all. With the vast amount of applicants and the minute amount accepted it is no wonder why they come here illegally.
I think there was a few of you that said something along the lines of “just don’t come here if your doing it illegally”. That fine and dandy if you live here. If you have ever been to Mexico you know what I mean (no not cancoon or any resort at all). life there is terrible. I can barley try to put it into perspective if you have never been there but for example if you buy a coke at a vender you cant walk away because he wants to reuse the bottle because it cost to much to make a new one(ok I know that wasn’t the best example). I’m not trying to get you to put money in a charity box or anything because there are places in the world that need it a lot more than mexico but my point is, if you live in poverty your entire life and you have a relatively easy way to get out of it, why wouldn’t you do it?
Someone else said it, “Its not their fault, its our government, it has been year in and year out”. They are going to come here as long as its easy and the pay is there. i think its always going to be here because not many buisnesses can survive without cheap labor.
