Argument over JL VS RE with friend

High Society · Post by **High Society** » Thu May 04, 2006 1:52 pm

^^I would go with that...But in this instance SQ will be subjective. All it's really gonna come down to is who is louder. I don't really hear this that much outta kids "Ya he was way louder, but mine sounded so much better." Kids these days think the louder it is the better it must be. No matter how much there stock speaker distort, as long as they can make that trunk rattle, and wake ppl up at 2 in the morin....thats all they care about. SQ is unheard of when you're a kid..lol

JL Man · Post by **JL Man** » Thu May 04, 2006 2:06 pm

hey matt, how old you? mr. adult! j/p :happy055:

i know when i went to school, that's all you heard was distorted stock speakers, bull horns under the hood and insane trunk rattleing!!!

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Thu May 04, 2006 2:14 pm

W6 or W6v2? Big difference. W6v2>SE>W6

NViejeP · Post by **NViejeP** » Thu May 04, 2006 6:27 pm

W6V2..

Its not a big deal, its more of a curiosity thing. I'm just curious haha.

Even though the RE SE 12 is getting 200 watts more rms, the w6v2 still beats it eh? Thats interesting!

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Thu May 04, 2006 6:35 pm

The W6v2 has a more linear motor and doesn't suffer as much from BL compression at high excursions. It won't take as much power to push it to it's limits. The rest of course will depend on what type of enclosure you put either subwoofer in. In the end the W6v2 is the more capable sub, but of course you pay for it.

Power handling is a useless spec unless you take the driver characteristics into account. Take my Dyns for example. There are plenty of drivers that will get a good bit louder off of 50 watts than my Dyns will off of 200.

Output wise they'll be pretty much the same assuming a similar setup, and that's taking the power levels into account. SQ, while subjective, I'd hand to the W6v2 due to the motor and suspension design. It's one of the most linear subs on the market.

ridr4lif · Post by **ridr4lif** » Thu May 04, 2006 6:37 pm

RMS power is only a thermal rating. It is how much the voice coil can handle, heat wise, presented in watts.

A lot of subs can reach full potential with less than the RMS rating.

William from NOLA is the perfect example. He has an Adire Brahma. Handles 1600 RMS. He was throwing 600 rms at it and retained great sq and peaked at 141.xx (i think).

The JL is a very well made sub. Not that the SE isnt...but JL has been doin this kind of stuff for longer.

High Society · Post by **High Society** » Thu May 04, 2006 8:53 pm

SPL<SE
SQ<W6v2

for the price....I'd go with an SE. the 6v2 are a pretty penny I believe, so make sure you tell him how much money you saved by going with it.

But it will really depend on the install. WE CAN"T tell you what will sound better or louder with out knowing how everything is set up

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Thu May 04, 2006 9:49 pm

You can't say that for much longer considering RE's new price hikes. Apparently they doesn't want to play the value game anymore.

High Society · Post by **High Society** » Thu May 04, 2006 9:59 pm

You can't say that for much longer considering RE's new price hikes. Apparently they doesn't want to play the value game anymore.

You can say that again. But the people can buy from a dealer tho. ANd that isn't to much more then direct I believe. But still a a dealer would sell an SE 12 for like 200, as oppose to 450 for a 6v2 right?

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Thu May 04, 2006 10:04 pm

Who said a W6v2 price is set in stone? JL prices are mostly dealer markup, all you gotta do is talk 'em down

. Really that applies to any consumer product.

New direct price for the SE12 is around $350, don't know what the dealers will be selling them for.