Really Pissed

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:25 am

I live in a rural community.

I see many migrant workers, all of which are mexicans (Im sure there are a few other creeds, but 99.9% are mexican).

These people do work that 99% of us wouldnt think about doing and they do it for a mediocre at best wage.

We had a crack down on illegals a few years back, mainly at a pickle packing plant...

There are various pickle and tomato plants in the area. Also Heinz and Hirzel canning. My dad worked at the canning place for a tad over a year on the maintenance team. He said that about 95% of the people operating the machinery were mexicans. None seemed to speak engish. They worked 12+ hours a day, 7 days a week...... All for $6/hr and no benefits...

If jobs like these were left up to us normal americans you would see product prices quadruple or more.

Illegal or not, I sure as hell wouldnt bend over in a field all day picking pickles... All for a small $500 check when the field is cleared- which takes days...

dmeyer07 · Post by **dmeyer07** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:31 am

Ryan from Ohio wrote: If jobs like these were left up to us normal americans you would see product prices quadruple or more.

Illegal or not, I sure as hell wouldnt bend over in a field all day picking pickles... All for a small $500 check when the field is cleared- which takes days...

x2 I couldn't agree more, prices would skyrocket, it would be interesting to see just what would happen if we got rid of all immigrants for a month or so, as far as prices,jobs,etc...

Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:31 am

so we should let people come into our country to do our dirty work? im tired of people bitching about not getting a job. well get off your damn high horse and do something. if u had a choice work in a field or live in the streets i know what i would do. i busted my ass in a dirty shop cleaning machines for little money i know what its like. if americans were so damn spoiled and believed they were better than this we wouldnt have any issues. bottom line is they are illegal...

OnYrMrk · Post by **OnYrMrk** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:35 am

All I know is I am pretty pissed too right now...I had to mow my OWN yard yesterday!

dmeyer07 · Post by **dmeyer07** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:35 am

Bwcad1 wrote:i busted my ass in a dirty shop cleaning machines for little money i know what its like. if americans were so damn spoiled and believed they were better than this we wouldnt have any issues. bottom line is they are illegal...

Ditto 5.00 an hour cleaning cnc machines at my fathers race shop. Dirty nasty work.

dmeyer07 · Post by **dmeyer07** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:37 am

OnYrMrk wrote:All I know is I am pretty pissed too right now...I had to mow my OWN yard yesterday!

OMG That's Terrible you poor thing!

kevinberry1 · Post by **kevinberry1** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:39 am

Ryan from Ohio wrote:I live in a rural community.
If jobs like these were left up to us normal americans you would see product prices quadruple or more.
Illegal or not, I sure as hell wouldnt bend over in a field all day picking pickles... All for a small $500 check when the field is cleared- which takes days...

People have been doing these kinds of jobs for years and only recently has the illegal immigrant population started dominating the food production work force. Yet we have not seen the price of pickles or ketchup go down because of the cheaper labor, only an increase in corporate profits. I doubt the prices would increase significantly, but corporate profits would take a hit and some of that would be passed down to the consumer. The market would even out prices for these items though because they are hardly necessities. For instance, when the price of oranges increases due to supply problems in Florida and California, consumers usually substitute another fruit. The same would likely happen with ketchup or pickles to some extent :)

The same goes for the meat packing industry that dominates the midwest. Meat packing companies used to have head quarters in cities like Chicago, Kansas City, Omaha, etc. so why have they relocated to smaller communities? Because there is little if any press or established organizations that will investigate worker exploitation, fraud, and other injustices.

Corporations have taken advantage of the government's lack of enforcement of immigration laws and corporate responsibility, and we are now dealing with a problem 20 years in the making. I hate to say it is too late, but 13 million illegal aliens later, we now have a much larger task at hand. The old phrase about an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of cure has never been more appropriate IMO.

Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:43 am

exactly dame ur a smart dude!

OnYrMrk · Post by **OnYrMrk** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:43 am

I live in Oklahoma, where it is now manditory to learn Spanish in our middle schools. WTF??? I don't understand us bending over for a bunch of illegals here. Last thing I remember, if you get caught stealing, you go to jail. If you are drinking and driving, you go to jail, if you are screwing little kids, you go to jail. You see, these things are all illegal. So if you are Illegal and have been caught, you should be jailed or deported. Eitherway, you might learn your lesson. Then again, in hindsight, ex-cons are rarely EX anything.

ridr4lif · Post by **ridr4lif** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:47 am

OnYrMrk wrote:I live in Oklahoma, where it is now manditory to learn Spanish in our middle schools. WTF??? I don't understand us bending over for a bunch of illegals here. Last thing I remember, if you get caught stealing, you go to jail. If you are drinking and driving, you go to jail, if you are screwing little kids, you go to jail. You see, these things are all illegal. So if you are Illegal and have been caught, you should be jailed or deported. Eitherway, you might learn your lesson. Then again, in hindsight, ex-cons are rarely EX anything.

I agree totally Joe. But the problem with putting them up in jail is now they have a bed to stay in every nite, food 3 times a day. And you know who pays for it? WE DO!

Something needs to be done. Stop worrying about Iraq, and focus on issues here in the United States. I mean, it is OUR country, shouldnt we take care of ourselves first?