Really Pissed

Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Tue May 02, 2006 4:13 am

i have no ill will twords anyone immigrants this is what i have a problem with ILLEGAL ALIENS U are not a legal citizen of this country U do not get the same rights. veggie im very sorry you feel that i am a ugly person thats just to bad. LIKE I SAID lets all march to mexico city and demand rights while waving american flags. u dont just walk into someones house and claim that this person should give you something while insulting the family?

joeyc · Post by **joeyc** » Tue May 02, 2006 5:23 am

JASON96R wrote:I had a great idea of what should have been done. During the protest of the illegal immigrants, for the rights in a country that they are in illegally, why should they not have the same rights as natural born citizens or legal immigrants, because they are I L L E G A L

While the illegal immigrants were excersing their 1ST Ammendment rights, oh wait they have none because they are illegal, the INS should have come in with buses, loaded the people up, and sent them back to their country of origin. Meanwhile the cameras would be rolling, with the members of the media bitching and moaning.

Then with me as spokesman: "I would like to thank all the illegals for protesting it made it easy for us to deport you."

amen brother!!!

Darthness · Post by **Darthness** » Tue May 02, 2006 6:12 am

a guest worker deal would be a good thign ti impliment.... especially fif they pay some taxes. even though most will probably still be paid under-the-table.

kevinberry1 · Post by **kevinberry1** » Tue May 02, 2006 6:21 am

I think it is important to remember who benefits from illegal immigrants working in the U.S; major corporations

Illegal immigrants drive down the average wage in a variety of areas, including food production and harvesting, product delivery, and various areas of customer service. The average wage for a meat packer in the 1980's was $19, now the average is down to $9. Wages in other areas are either lower or remain the same as 20 years ago, without accounting for inflation!

The major corporations such as Con Agra (headquarters in my city) and numerous others all benefit from not having to pay their share of social security, unemployement, and job benefits to workers. These companies make a ton of money while the U.S. citizens have to make up the difference in terms of rising health care costs, auto/health insurance, and taxes to support a variety of social programs these individuals use (jails, roads, EDUCATION). You can thank both Republican and Democratic presidencies beginning with the Reagan adminstration, and pretty much all of our elected representatives during that time. These major corporations pretty much own both political parties and that is the reason nothing has been done regarding illegal immigration.

The book Fast Food Nation describes a lot of the problems created by illegal workers in the food harvesting and production sectors. Iowa Beef Packing (now owned by Con Agra) used to run radio ads in Mexico advertising jobs in the meat packing plants in Iowa and Nebraska, not because there was a shortage of workers, but because of the benefits of hiring illegals. They will rarely report any problems or illegal activities at work and they will not sue or contact authorities if something happens. Many workers have lost fingers, hands, even more, and because they were illegal nothing happened. They risk losing their job, home, and family due to deportation. And if you want to see the impact illegal immigration has on a community, just visit various small towns in Nebraska where the beef packing industry is predominant. The negative financial impact on these small towns is amazing.

Justin from Detroit1 · Tue May 02, 2006 6:52 am

A few things...

1. A lot of you "SEND THE M-FERS BACK" are being very childish.
2. I would gladly do some ofthe jobs they have. I am unemployed and can not find a job because of this shit economy in Michigan.
3. This whole immigration thing was started just to distract you from the BULLSHIT WAT GOING ON OVER SEAS. Looks like Bush has done a good job makingyou forget about that, huh?

Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Tue May 02, 2006 6:55 am

o jesus just close this before it turns into a presidential debate. read the paper instead of watching the news form your own opinions instead of being driven by the media. and blame bush for everything thats the way to go...

Robert Wollenberg · Post by **Robert Wollenberg** » Tue May 02, 2006 7:08 am

If it gives anybody any confort, things in Iraq are a hell of a lot better than most the media reports. The majority of Americans really have no idea about what's going on here, the good that's being done, etc. I'm glad I was able to be here and do intend to volunteer to come back. Hopefully I'll be back here next January. Mainly because the weather is better that time of year. :)

kevinberry1 · Post by **kevinberry1** » Tue May 02, 2006 7:10 am

I agree that the timing of Bush's proposal a few months ago was suspect. He should have special interest in illegal immigration being the former governor of Texas, but he didn't mention it during his previous 5 years in office. I can't believe it is 4 1/2 years since 9/11 and the U.S. still has basically done nothing with regard to border security.

Bush angered both the extreme liberals and extreme conservatives with his proposal for criminalizing illegal immigrants, he probably would have been better off to take more moderate stances earlier in his administration.

dmeyer07 · Post by **dmeyer07** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:22 am

Bwcad1 wrote:ok here is the deal i have sat back and watched this bullshit with the illegal aliens. now today matts box and joeys woofers were supposed to be shipped. i get home at 5 oclock and there still sitting on my porch. i call dhl a lil annoyed as to y there not gone. they tell me oh well our driver was mexican he had the day off. i was like ok did you fire him? they were like sorry sir this is a sensitive matter have a good day and hung up. at this point im livid. here is my rant i have no problems with immigrants its the god damn illegal aliens that think they deserve rights because they walked into our country. come do it the legal way and i have no issues. if you here and your illegal gtfo of our country...

Quite a little argument ya started

lol, now it's off to presidential debates, don't ya just love threads like this

I'll refrain from posting my thoughts on presidents, but as far as immigrants, if they can't get papers to come in legaly then they shouldn't be here period. Mexicans for the most part are good workers, and friendly but god it drives me nuts when they can't even speak our LANGUAGE or when the slightly can and it's all slured together with mexican.

-David

ridr4lif · Post by **ridr4lif** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:24 am

Kevinberry, i couldnt agree with your previous post more (post 34). I think you hit it right on the head. They are driving down wages and it sux.

3. This whole immigration thing was started just to distract you from the BULLSHIT WAT GOING ON OVER SEAS. Looks like Bush has done a good job makingyou forget about that, huh?

I think the issue here with immigration should be taken care of. I wish we would spend more time worrying about immigration than trying to establish a gov't in Iraq or whatever. I dont even get why we are in Iraq to be honest (im not putting you down Airforce, i support the troops, but not whats going on).

I just hope that this "strike" brings American citizens attention back to the problems we have here in the states, not other countries problems half way around the world.