Rate my new system

NViejeP · Post by **NViejeP** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:49 pm

I am on a budget for a whole new system for under $1000, at first I was aiming for a JL 500/5 but I came to realize that the amp itself + wiring + installation will be more than $800 LOL. So I decided to get real, heres my system:

Please help me fill in the empty spots! ALSO a very important question, will this work? I know the impedences match, but what about that dual voice coil stuff? Sorry I'm new to everything.

Subwoofer
-JL 12w1v2 150w RMS at 4 Ohm
-JL CS112RG-W1v2 - Basically the same as above but with a JL audio box. It is a powerwedge.
http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_encl ... rod_id=322

Amplifer
-Phoenix Gold Octane-R 9.0:5 Channel
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_1613.html

Box
-I need a suggestion. I like sound quality over hard hitting so I'm looking for a sealed PROBABLY. But I would like something that would hit decent but still sound good.

Wiring Kit
-I need a suggestion. I heard of KnuKonceptz but do they have a 5 channel? My favorite store says they haev a JL that will work for $100, kind of expensive but yah.

Front Components 6.5 - 50 watt RMS needed
-MB Quart DSD216
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fus ... ct_ID=1202
-JL Audio TR650CSi
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fus ... ct_ID=1183
-Which one? JLs are $10 cheaper. Both are 50w RMS. Right now I'm leaning towards the mbs.

Rear Coaxials 4" maybe 5.25 - 50 watt RMS needed
-I have yet to find a 4" speaker that will run at 50 watt RMs at 4 Ohm. Can anyone find one?

NOTHING is final yet, excpet maybe for the amp + sub cause it seems like a perfect fit. Haha. If you can suggest anything to help improve or fix, let me know.

Everything should come around to $1000 which is around what I can spend.

Thanks

High Society · Post by **High Society** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:59 pm

Everything should come around to $1000 which is around what I can spend.

you could do much better then that with 1000. You buying from a dealer or can you do ebay? Call RE and see if you can buy off them direct. An SE should cost you $180-200 or so direct I think. Look for a JBLbp600.1 off ebay, for 100-150. Justin is selling some elevation audio comps for 110 shipped. Great deal. Forget speakers in the rear, dont need them. Look on ebay for a speaker amp, a low powered decent one should cost you say 120-180.

If you can build your own box, Much cheaper. If you cant and want a shop to make it, go ported. A 4g amp kit from knu should cost around 25-30. so lets see.....if the shop charged 250 for your box, and I added the highest prices outt what I mentioned, would cost you $860. depending on your car electrical system you may need an upgraded alt, so you have 140 towards an upgraded alt. Should be a good sounding system right there. You could always go with a 15" SE to get a lil louder.

NViejeP · Post by **NViejeP** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:20 am

I totally forgot about Resonant Engineering. I will consider them, but thing is I live in San Francisco, and I would PROBABLY have to buy from a dealer.

And isn't it a LOT better to just get 1 amp instead of two?

Darthness · Post by **Darthness** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:15 am

go for the JL 13w1v2... i ran one for atleast 6 months i think in a sealed box built to JL specs and under 200w going to it... and let me tell you, it sounded great.

and on the 1 amp over 2... i'd doubt it. i'm no expert but i'd guess that on some amps it may be easier for it to over heat and might be a little ineffiecient compared to a decent 2 amp setup.

Post by **GlassWolf** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:13 am

on a budget forget JL entirely.
decent stuff but overpriced for what it is when you're on restraints.
Forget rear speakers, too.
PG amps aren't that great.

I'd look at kicker or MTX or hifonics or similar for an amplifier.. probably a 2 channel for fronts, and a mono amp for subs. don't go overboard with power. maybe 50x2 for fronts, and 300-500 for a sub.
Look at RE or AA or similar for a good sub.
a single RE SE12 would work very well.
build your own box instead of spending more to get it done for you, if possible.

get better front speakers and forget the rears instead of getting so-so speakers for all 4 spots.
fronts are vital. rears are mostly useless.

Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:50 am

I'd look at kicker or MTX or hifonics or similar for an amplifier...

wow kiki! didnt expect that out of you!

sinister audio · Post by **sinister audio** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:02 am

the SE12 would be a great sub for you and there might not be a dealer in your area.

Post by **GlassWolf** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:08 pm

why not?
I moved hifonics to "good" as requested. They work, they don't fail much, they just had a spell of over-rating their power output. If he's on a tight budget, some corners are better to cut than others. Power is power, but speakers can make all the difference.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:23 pm

Kicker makes a good 3 channel in the KX550.3, and I'd bet you'll see a lot of them around with Kickers new ZX (I think that's right) amps replacing the KX series. It puts out something like 70-80W x 2 at 4 ohm for components, 400x1 for a sub on a 2 ohm load. Solid amp for a budget system, you could probably find a new one around $250-300, slightly used would likely be under $200 off of ebay or another forum.

You could get a Knukonceptz 4 channel wiring kit for that one, it's only like $36.

The RE SE is a good budget sub, as is the Image Dynamics IDQ. They're $200 or under for a 12", you could build your own box or have somebody built it for you (if someone built for you, it'd likely be around $100). There are also subs in the FS section, primarily eatank's Arc Audio subs for $145 each (shipped), and omietrice has a 12W6v2 for sale for $300 shipped. Both damned nice subs. I'd go with one of those, personally.

Spend the rest of the money on some good components, something like CDT HDs, JL XRs, MB Quart Premiums, Alpine Type X comps, things in that price range. Lots of good components to be had in the $300-400 range.

Team AI · Post by **Team AI** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:50 pm

I actually have under $1000 in all my speakers, amps and HU I think I went a little over adding the eq and xover but you can check it out in the install show off. it's all Kicker Amps, MTX subs (got on clearance from circuit city) and Infinity components which I love (under 100 on ebay) you can get almost everything I'm running on ebay and I have links for sellers if your interested in them, I haven't had any problems with the sellers so If I can help just let me know.