new XXX's are out..

[Chris from MI]

Definitely eliminates having a XXX in any kind of compact install. LOL I guess I won't be upgrading my old XXX's anytime soon, and I thougt the mount depth on the EA X was bad. Oh well I would still like to hear one.

[High Society]

they way 79 lbs i belive

the 12's right?

what about the 15"?

[Bwcad1]

yea the 12 i dont know about the 15

[lotas]

thats insane. So did they change the motor? They threw out the XBL^2 and how is the new setup supposed to compare?

[Justin from Detroit1]

Nobody knows, yet everyone is gay over it anyways.

[Chris from MI]

I think they did drop the XBL^2 motor design though.

[lotas]

Ah thats great lol. I bet RE reps get onto http://www.caraudio.com and just start laughing, grinning, and plotting the release of the 07 XXX!!

[Jonathan]

I think he meant "daily driver" as in an SQL setup, as opposed to a one-note-wonder setup.

Perhaps, perhaps not. Any motor topology has it's limits. The more output you try to achieve, the more drawbacks you're going to have SQ wise. Even XBL^2 starts to achieve a BL "ripple" once you start stretching excursion past around 15mm one way-Dan Wiggins himself admits that one. Not to a huge negative degree with something in the form of a Brahma, but it won't take much more to really start noticing some SQ drawbacks. That comes in the form of BL linearity, inductance, increasing MMS (which will explain the horrible efficiency of these and similar drivers), less consistency over the range of excursion in relation to BL linearity and suspension abilities, amongst other things. The XXX isn't even using XBL^2 on this one, though I haven't heard the exact topology they're going with on this one.

If you want a 3db increase, you're going to have to double the excursion to do it. You'd want the XXX to have a 62mm one way excursion with the same BL curve that the previous one did-and this one isn't going to do it. While linear excursion is important, the current route they're going with it is straight out stupid IMO.

That's why we (Glasswolf, MikeChec9, and myself) have mentioned that we are waiting on testing to what it turns out like.

[GlassWolf]

note while I still adore the old XXX and SE subs, and even the RE nd SX, I am reserving judgement on the new lines of subs until they've proven themselves.

What I am anxious to get my paws on though, is a pair of Geolemon's offerings in a 12" set.

[Ryan from Ohio]

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