This game is REALLY hard to figure out.
More of a puzzle than a game though
http://www.borrett.id.au/computing/petals-j.htm
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Petals around the Rose
A.K.A. megahurts4 :: Member since: July 19, 2002 
I remember this- it was pretty popular in the 80s. I went over this when we were studying Piaget's concepts. It pertains to these:
Assimilation- think of it this way: your mind has its database already built, with its fields and categories already defined. If it comes across new information which fits into those fields, it can assimilate it without any trouble. If it isn't, however, it challenges you and you have difficulty.
Another concept of his is accomodation(which ties in with assimilation). In accommodation, your thought process has to accommodate itself to the evidence with which it is confronted and adapt to it, which is much more difficult. It's like what happens when you try to put in information which does not fit pre-existent fields and categories. You have to develop new ones to accommodate the new information.
Piaget studied child development-but as adults, we have already developed (to a degree, anyway). For that reason we find it more difficult to alter our thought process for this one.
That said, the most intelligent people have the most trouble with this one, while those that have simpler thought process tend to get this one quickly. The reason is because intelligent people tend to overanalyze this one way too much when it isn't complicated. Intelligent people get too caught up in finding an equation for this that they lose that it's the metaphor that's important.
The title really does help-It's so simple that it's hard. It took me a while and I ended up figuring it out mathematically, then I stepped back, looked at WHY I was getting those numbers and figured out why it's called petals around the rose. We had some people at the end of the semester that didn't get this one.
Assimilation- think of it this way: your mind has its database already built, with its fields and categories already defined. If it comes across new information which fits into those fields, it can assimilate it without any trouble. If it isn't, however, it challenges you and you have difficulty.
Another concept of his is accomodation(which ties in with assimilation). In accommodation, your thought process has to accommodate itself to the evidence with which it is confronted and adapt to it, which is much more difficult. It's like what happens when you try to put in information which does not fit pre-existent fields and categories. You have to develop new ones to accommodate the new information.
Piaget studied child development-but as adults, we have already developed (to a degree, anyway). For that reason we find it more difficult to alter our thought process for this one.
That said, the most intelligent people have the most trouble with this one, while those that have simpler thought process tend to get this one quickly. The reason is because intelligent people tend to overanalyze this one way too much when it isn't complicated. Intelligent people get too caught up in finding an equation for this that they lose that it's the metaphor that's important.
The title really does help-It's so simple that it's hard. It took me a while and I ended up figuring it out mathematically, then I stepped back, looked at WHY I was getting those numbers and figured out why it's called petals around the rose. We had some people at the end of the semester that didn't get this one.
I so agree. I spent a while trying to figure it out, it wasn't till a guy I work with figured it out that the light clicked.
Heck I must have added,and subtracted 50 diffrent ways, some of which worked for a while, but weren't the answer.
Its cool being able to look back, and see how my mind works when aproched with a problem like that. First thing I did was start writing it down, trying to find a pattern that I could see. Then I started looking at it like I do a wiring diagram, or fault tree. Everything I was doing was scientific, and well thought out (even if I do suck at math). So its only natural it hits me when I am on the truck talking to some of my coworkers about it.
Heck I must have added,and subtracted 50 diffrent ways, some of which worked for a while, but weren't the answer.
Its cool being able to look back, and see how my mind works when aproched with a problem like that. First thing I did was start writing it down, trying to find a pattern that I could see. Then I started looking at it like I do a wiring diagram, or fault tree. Everything I was doing was scientific, and well thought out (even if I do suck at math). So its only natural it hits me when I am on the truck talking to some of my coworkers about it.
