the new dodge charger

Post by **GlassWolf** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:35 am

very true, and like the 66 charger, which was Dodge's main platform of the year (the coronet/charger) the Intrepid was the 90s flagship platform they based the other products on. similar target markets as well, spanning the years.
Jon's got a good point there, The intrepid has a similar design as well with the short hood and long fastback sort of look with the huge interior space. Mind you that's in relation to the 66/67 charger. the 68+ got smaller, more like the cuda/challenger etc.

Anyway glad ya made it over, Jon. Good to see ya here.

MobileAudio219 · Post by **MobileAudio219** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:48 pm

I pretty much agree with everyone else, its ugly... And I'm not even going to go into how crappy their trannys are, or how the new hemi sucks...

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:16 pm

The thing that gets me is it isn't even a true Hemi. It very closely resembles the "semi-hemi" head that Ford used the the late 1960s 429 engine family. I saw a comparison picture of the Old Ford head and the New Hemi head, they're almost twins in the aspect of combustion chamber shape and valve layout.

Post by **GlassWolf** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:08 pm

gotta remember that a true hemispherical head design like the old 426 "strip" hemi isn't a low end torque type of design anyway. It produces a hell of a lot of power and torque but its mostly in the upper bands which is ideal for it's original design. Drag racing.
Not ideal for a street car really.
the 426 had a peak horsepower at 5500RPM and a peak torque band at 4000RPM.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:30 pm

Low end torque = Magnum :) It's all in marketing, I guess. Even the Grand Cherokee gets a Hemi over the tried and true 4.0L. I love my V-8s, but it's hard to beat a good I-6 for all around torque and reliability, and the 4.0L was perfect for a Jeep.
I agree with you about the Hemi, The 440 IMO was a better street motor.

Post by **GlassWolf** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:30 am

which is why my street car has a 440 magnum as the basis for it's build. more displacement, more stroke, lower power band. not really any heavier though since it's essentially the exact same block as a 383. Anyway between the mythical hemi name and the more is better mentality of the uneducated in regards to car engines, its not surprising that Jeep is milking the hemi for sales in the JGC now. 330hp is quite a bit for an SUV, but it is still an SUV, and not a sportscar.