60" Sub???

High Society · Post by **High Society** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:25 pm

If it makes you feel any better, Matt Overpeck is at Audiobahn now. He's the guy that singlehandedly destroyed Audiomobile by being an ass, maybe he'll repeat history

I wanna know I wanna know, what did he do?

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:43 pm

Audiomobile was an internet company that was putting out highly regarded product. Basically, Matt went on internet forums bashing all competitors, calling members all sorts of names for saying his product was inferior to <insert competitor here> or for them wanting any other product, stuff like that. Basically took their reputation to shit and the company nosedived.

Post by **GlassWolf** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:28 am

Now seeing him try that approach with audiobahn would just be hilarious :)

I have to say though as much as I bust on audiobahn, at least it's an enemy I know, so to speak :)

geolemon · Post by **geolemon** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:03 am

Hey, it doesn't matter...
He can hide behind the 'shield' of the behemoth that is Audiobahn.

Hell, forums full of thousands of credible enthusiasts bashing Audiobahn for years hasn't seemed to make a dent in their popularity or their sales - so Matt Overpeck is probably safe at this company.

Truthfully, Matt Overpeck was a PR nightmare - but he at least recognized the value of an underhung driver, and the value of a quality build house.
He embarassed himself basically when Dan Wiggins introduced XBL^2 with the very first Brahma - at that time, the architecture was confidential, and wasn't revealed (and I was trying to guess at it like everyone else!

)...
But Dan put up BL plots that showed the superiority of XBL^2 to underhung, and Matt ended up embarassing himself.

If he had been a bit humbler about things, he could have taken a different approach, and not embarassed himself. After all, in a post-XBL^2 world, it isn't as if there's no room for underhung drivers - but Audiomobile vanished in a poof of embarassement over bad behavior.

I'd point you to CAF to do some searching for threads - but apparantly Lee has disabled the search feature temporarily (I hope temporarily!).
There are some killer Dan vs. Matt threads on there - I wouldn't mind reliving that soap opera myself, for pure entertainment value.

As regards Audiobahn...
I've done some installs with Audiobahnthat were pretty cool, and (get this) technically appropriate even!

I had the privilege of doing all the fabrication and motorization on this truck - turning things over to one of our fabricators when it came time for upholstery (although I did help stretch - check out that sub box... one piece of vinyl, all stretched, no seams - front, sides, top.

).
I don't have "good" pictures of the sub box - there's a complete color changing LED undercar kit in there, with the tubes oriented so that the light patterns caused what looks like color shifting balls of light circling around the subs, through the plexi baffle I frosted:
http://www.kwbuffalo.com/gallery_f650.php
(The truck was for Lawyer Milloy of the Buffalo Bills - I'm not a fan either

That's his autograph in my backlit door pods)
The subs were chosen because I needed a super shallow sub - that flat piston has almost no mounting depth, and reasonable performance specs.

And there's me standing in front of an Audiobahn AWT34 in a plexi box I designed (1" acrylic with a mirrored floor, 20 cu.ft.):
http://www.kwbuffalo.com/about.php
...in retrospect, after spending time observing the mechanical excursion capabilities of this thing, there's no way you could get 5000w to this thing (it's rating) in an enclosure that large - and who cares about losing low end extension when your Fs is 18hz? I would have put it into a 10 cu.ft. box if I had it to do over again...

That box there is 36" tall, 48" wide, and 24" deep - tough to fit into a vehicle (plus it weighs about 600 pounds, literally). If I could do it over again, the box would be only 36" tall, 36" wide, and 18" deep - which would look like a tiny box for that sub... how many other subs can perform in a box that's no taller or wider than the sub frame, and just a few inches deeper than the mounting depth?

It would be fun to have just for the silliness of it... pop the trunk, "Here's my sub!" And it does get loud - bear in mind, in terms of displacement, equivalent to 49 of it's little brother the AWT10, one of Audiobahn's more expensive subs.

But that being said - I'm definitely not an Audiobahn fan, save for a couple interesting products like these.
Maybe Matt Overpeck will convince them to produce an underhung sub?

mikechec9 · Post by **mikechec9** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:28 am

lmao. Sweet, sweet install. But Audison, Focal, and Audiobahn? It's kind of like Denzel, Dinero, and... Paul Walker.

Curious as to how the Bahns ended up as the subs of preference.

*edit* Unless it was a demo car for the store, displaying the items you retail. In which case pairing them with the Focals and Audisons makes plenty of sense.

geolemon · Post by **geolemon** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:46 am

geolemon wrote:The subs were chosen because I needed a super shallow sub - that flat piston has almost no mounting depth, and reasonable performance specs.

The box, as you can see, was only something like 6" deep altogether.

Plus, Audiobahn carries clout with the "bigg baller" football player types.
And the specs on that particular sub are pretty reasonable, seemed to perform well.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:04 am

I saw one Audiobahn demo vehicle that had the midranges in the door inverted to show off the chrome basket

OnYrMrk · Post by **OnYrMrk** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:58 am

Hey Geo, Is that an LRx1.400 Powering the 'Bahns? Just curious.

High Society · Post by **High Society** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:11 am

So the football player wanted them Abahs? Or it was the only sub you had on hand that would fit in such limited space?

geolemon · Post by **geolemon** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:55 pm

High Society wrote:So the football player wanted them Abahs? Or it was the only sub you had on hand that would fit in such limited space?

Both.

I'm a fan of Focal and Audison, of what we carry there (I like the DLS stuff quite a bit too). But he'd never heard of them.
But he recognized the Audiobahn.

Convincing him to have confidence in Focal and Audison is actually what took effort, since he wasn't familiar with it.

It's an LRx 1.400 powering the subs, at 1 ohm. My pleasure with how small those amps are turned into the pain of "these heatsinks are too small" - I ended up with FOUR sets of fans inside that rack, including two squirrel-cage fans, one of them pulling heat out from under the seat.

Two channel LRx amp on the other side... 2.250 possibly? I forget now, that was last year.
Focal Polyglass in the doors.