My idea... Never ending power!!!

MobileAudio219 · Post by **MobileAudio219** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:37 pm

So one day my cousin and I were camping and I came up with a idea that would give us never ending power... Then Ryan shut me down, told me I was stupid and said it could never work, then hit me with a stick...

Equiment needed.
Battery
H.O Alternator
12v electric motor
Small Dc/Ac Inventor
wiring...

Use the battery to power the 12v motor, which would turn the alternator, which would charge the battery, would would power the dc/ac inverter.

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MobileAudio219 · Post by **MobileAudio219** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:38 pm

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Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:43 pm

it would eventually die because of resistance in the wire and in everything else as well

MobileAudio219 · Post by **MobileAudio219** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:47 pm

but if you put out more power than you used..........?

like get a huge alternator 200+ amp

then get a small Dc/Ac converter (say like 80 amp)

Use it to power a light and a radio?

Surely you could get it to work somehow?

William from NOLA · Post by **William from NOLA** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:00 pm

I think it will work for like 3 years. Just think of the monthly energy costs being saved!

raw9283 · Post by **raw9283** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:00 pm

you cant put out more power than you use.

Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:04 pm

exactly the alt will only create power as you need it.

raw9283 · Post by **raw9283** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:12 pm

I think the battery would die because the electric motor and alternator aren't 100% efficient, and like bill said the wires have resistance. Not to mention your light bulb sucking energy

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:20 pm

well the problem comes in with the electric motor too....where are you going to get a high efficiancy electric motor that will spin an alternator at 4000 rpms or so to get full benefit of the alt. that will not eat up a lot of power itself? and like they said you are only going to produce the power being demanded

Post by **GlassWolf** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:05 pm

"but if you put out more power than you used..........?"

you'd win a nobel prize and probably become the single most important man in history.

you cannot create or destroy energy, so you'll never have >100% efficiency. essentially you'll use more power than you create, much the way it's inefficient to take an AC alternator, rectify it to DC, plug in a DC-to-AC inverter, and power a notebook PC that runs on DC current via the step-down transformer.

you lose too much to heat and so forth.

just the laws of physics there at work.