st.louis mo trying to outlaw speakers over 10"!

MobileAudio219 · Post by **MobileAudio219** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:22 am

It's going to be like the old days of running shine, only now it will be 12" subwoofers.

It's just plain stupid, if they want to pass a responsible noise ordinance thats one thing, but this is the type of ordinance that gets poo on porches...

Chris from MI · Post by **Chris from MI** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:55 am

Thats just stupid. Just goes to show you that these people (lawmakers) really have no clue what they are talking about. I really don't see this coming into effect. With sooo many other things to find solutions for they are going after something as frivolous as that. It boggles my mind sometimes.

Post by **GlassWolf** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:34 am

the thought behind this would be that the largest factory speakers in cars are generally ten inches. thus by passing this law they think they can virtually eliminate aftermarket stereos and thus eliminate the people driving around at night with the stereos turned up, annoying others.
What they could have done is just pass an orinance making it a citable offense to have an aftermarket amplifier in the car with an available power source, much the way Virginia does with radar detectors.

TechSys · Post by **TechSys** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:47 pm

Next thing you'll see is a limitation on wattage.

JeremyC · Post by **JeremyC** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:04 pm

TechSys wrote:Next thing you'll see is a limitation on wattage.

Then you will see a rise in cheater amps again. Like the old punch 45, and orions.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:26 pm

And possibly the a decrease in Sony, Pyramid, and other "2000 watt!!!!" amplifiers out there.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:27 pm

But the more laws you make, the more loopholes you open up.

geolemon · Post by **geolemon** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:11 pm

People should be worried about laws like this...
...or rather - the reason that laws like this are proposed to begin with.

Way, way, way too many people don't have common sense - and I'm talking about the people in the car audio world, not the people proposing the laws.
At least they have a reason for proposing the law - think about it.

I can't tell you how many times I've been annoyed by some ignorant punk driving through my residential neighborhood at 140dB+...
I've thought about flagging cars down, and even building a Herf gun to shut them down as they drive by... and I'm one of the biggest car audio enthusiast and supporters there is!

Think about it though... everything has a time and a place, and if people weren't driving through residential areas booming their systems, these laws wouldn't even be proposed.

(that's not the only "lack of common sense" thing, either... how many times have you heard someone booming through a mall parking lot... right into their parking space? And then no doubt whining when their stereo gets stolen. Probably had a few "steal me!" stickers on their car, too. )

And yes, I'm pissed when my rights are infringed upon because of the ignorant ones.

William from NOLA · Post by **William from NOLA** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:49 pm

geolemon wrote: I'm pissed when my rights are infringed upon because of the ignorant ones.

Not so much ignorant as they are stupid, inconsiderate, and selfish.

I live currently on the corner of a major street and I hear sooo many crappy stereos. ANY time of the day. It is very annoying at 1 AM. They could at least put their windows up.

Post by **GlassWolf** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:04 pm

My only issue with the law is that you can be cited merely for owning the speakers.. not for abusing any sort of noise ordinance.

That's like writing someone a speeding ticket merely for owning a car capable of breaking the local speed limits.