looking for SQ over 3 10" kicker or 2 12"

[email protected] · Post by **[email protected]** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:33 am

hi i am new in audio i have a small trunk i think its better if i go for SQ on a small trunk cause it rattles with everything mmm . i have a 96 neon i wan a install a new system on it i know i am going for SQ but i dont know if to get 3 10" or 2 12" kicker l5 i am not sure what will give me better sound quality and should i choose the L7 or L5 model i know i am putting 400 rms whats to each of them so i dont know if it make a diference if i put a sub that handdles more rms power kwowing that the amps will be the same. will and for my final question ported or sealed box . thanks i hope u anwaswer fast thanks.

phthisis · Post by **phthisis** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:09 am

The kicker square subs will not give you good sound quality at all. They are spl oriented subs and they are known to have problems such as tinsel leads snapping/breaking. If you want sound quality you should not look for square subs. If you want kicker subs then go with the comp vrs. If you want suggestions for better subs then I'm sure someone on here can help you out with that.

JeremyC · Post by **JeremyC** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:26 am

JL 12X6V2 or 12W7
Elevation Audio Comp or Pro series
Kicker CVR
Eclipse
RE

Honestly there are tons of speakers out there that will sound better than the kicker L series. So I just listed a few ideas above. If you let us know how much you want to spend, I am sure we could steer you in many directions.

While you at it check out The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly in the FAQ section. It will give you a general idea what to look into, and what to stay away from (Kicker L series subs).

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:41 am

i think an elevation pro would do nicely.....

Mithrandir · Post by **Mithrandir** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:11 am

i plan on getting 2 lethal injection 12s or 2 RE SX 12s later in life (6 months+)

on a side note

there was a skidsteer truck at my work yesterday. He has Skid R Done across the top lol

audiobass10 · Post by **audiobass10** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:55 am

If you're worried about rattles, and are looking for a nice SQ setup..how about doing an IB setup sealed off from the trunk? Something like an RE XXX, Dayton Titantic, Brahma or even the W7 would be a great SQL driver to give you the sound quality you want and still be plenty loud for most people.

OnYrMrk · Post by **OnYrMrk** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:05 am

I compete in SQ, and have always been into sq rather than SPL. My experience is this:
1. SQ is a state of mind. If you love music and tonality, accurate imaging and perfect harmony between tweets, mids, midbass, and bass..then I say go for sound q. if not...you might be more excited to go for spl.

2. That being said, you can still get good sq through an spl system. If you are dead set on getting in three subs, think about going with 3-8w7's. Put about 500w to each sub and watch that little car jump. then use a bass nob or epicenter to turn down the bass when you want to hear the full spectrum of music.

3. A small trunk is not a limit. It can be your friend. Think of infinate baffle subs. those that do not need a box. Most of these provide deep and articulate bass. Look for subs that use small enclosures...like the old Kicker Solo-baric rounds from the 90's. Those were some of the best SQ subs made.

I have Focal for my sub..it can be placed in three different enclosure sizes.

it is a 33V2 "13in sub"
box sizes (all sealed)
1) 1.06cuft box tuned at 42.3hz and get fast and tight bass
2) 1.41cuft box tuned at 40.2hz and get punchy and dynamic bass
3) 1.77cuft box tuned at 39.1hz and get deep and articulate bass (mine)

I would venture to say that most subs can achieve these results depending on the box built.

if you must have a box, to conserve space, choose a sub that works well in a sealed enclosure...cause ported can get huge.

hope this helped...

Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:12 am

the kicker l series is not an sound quaility series these woofers are made to get loud however imo they sound like crap. i have never heard an l series that sounded even decent. and to top it off there very unreliable. do not get these woofers go with one of the many listed above!

ridr4lif · Post by **ridr4lif** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:41 am

I can vouch for Kicker's L7's being crap. I just successfully killed my 6th one.
I might also look into image dynamics woofers also, along with the aforementioned woofers.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:56 am

Depends on the SQ you want

SQ when loudness isn't a big issue:

Dynaudio MW190
Image Dynamics IDQ
JL Audio W3v2, W6v2
Focal subwoofers
Eclipse Aluminum
SEAS Lotus

Note: JL Audio W6v2 and Eclipse Aluminum do get pretty loud, but their are subs in their lineups that are louder. Both are excellent at lower volume levels.

SQ when you want loudness:

Image Dynamics ID Max
JL Audio W7
Adire Audio Brahma
Resonant Engineering XXX
Diamond Audio subs (D9)
Eclipse Titanium

I wouldn't recommend anything Kicker for SQ.