Is it nice SQ system?????

racerraul · Post by **racerraul** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:04 am

rsjaurr wrote:R these better than monster one's?

It isn't better or worse... but definitely a better value.

Can u guys list some good 3-4brands for compelete car audio system?

As far as your system goes, if your focus is SQ, it may prove to you to be as hard to find as the Holy Grail. If you haven't purchased anything yet, what is your budget?

There are lots of good name brands & bad ones... but the main difference is the cost of having to pay more for a certain name brand among the good ones. I have friends dumping tons of money on audio gear because they think the more they spend the better. Just know that it isn't nessesarily so...

What do you have available locally? Or are you buying online? Are you open to RAW DIY drivers (by far the best value in speaker selection, and there is more info about what you're buying available, unlike Car Audio brands)

Finally, I would make your speaker selection carefully since this will make or break the tonality of your system.

OnYrMrk · Post by **OnYrMrk** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:16 am

I have used Monster Cable brand wiring in everything I have. Home Audio and Car Audio. It has never let me down and is an excellent value. Richard Clark and David Navone developed a patent on RCA's and the only vendor that has EXCLUSIVE rights to that patent is Monster Cable. My speaker cable is 10g for the car and 8g for the home. You can trust your cable.

Magazines will report well on what is sponsored for that month, the competition falls by the wayside. When they get the chance to have sponsorship from MC, then they will praise it and the others will fall by the way side.

Justin from Detroit1 · Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:32 am

There are tests proving that the $75 Monster Cable wiring is NOT better then the $5 generic wiring, SERIOUSLY. For Monster Cable you are paying for a name and the ridiculous things they come up with "OMG THRIPLE SHIELDED OXYGEN FREE BASE LEVEL 9X2 WIRE". Monster Cable is no better then KnuKonceptz wiring.

OnYrMrk · Post by **OnYrMrk** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:55 am

well to some "name brands" mean stability and quality. I research things to a "tee" and if it is good enough for richard clark, then it is good enough for me.

besides, didn't he say he already has Monster Cable? Why would anyone encourage someone to trash what he already has, and go out to buy some other product? Wait until it burns up or breaks or distorts, then go out and get something else.

Justin from Detroit1 · Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:47 am

Because if he hasn't used it yet he can return it, but KnuKonceptz wiring, and save $50 or more.

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:43 am

If I read this correctly he hasnt bought anything yet.

I have used both brands and a wide range of RCAs between the both.

I only buy Knukonceptz now. There is a nice cost savings and the quality is always excellent...

They have yet to do me wrong.

Monster Cable. THey have never done me wrong either. But Im always at a store to get it. Its about 3x more expensive... Same end results...

High Society · Post by **High Society** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:34 am

buy Knukonceptz

X2, great products, at a great price. Check them out http://www.Knukonceptz.com
If you really want help, tell us how much you wanna spend. Then we could find anything in your budget.

racerraul · Post by **racerraul** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:17 pm

OnYrMrk wrote:well to some "name brands" mean stability and quality. I research things to a "tee" and if it is good enough for richard clark, then it is good enough for me.

Sounds like the research you do is on what RC gets paid to sponsor...

Not to pick on you, but you should be able to explain what & why you think something is better technically rather than "cause Dick Clark" uses it...

You can have 7 layers of shielding... if the resistance across it is the same as that of a $2 pair & there is no induced noise in either one, there is no magic in the world that will make the MC "sound" better... The objective behind shielding is noise rejection... nothing else.

IMO... Knukoncepts products are as overbuilt as MC's at a fraction of MC's cost. And they look as good, too for those concerned with ergos...

OnYrMrk · Post by **OnYrMrk** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:28 pm

Well the only thing in my home system that is copper wire is my speaker wire. I do not use RCA's anymore, I have upgraded to HDMI. I use S-Video from receiver to dvd, dvd to DLP is HDMI. I utilize Monster Cable Speaker wire because it is the only brand that has never let me down. I respect Richard Clark in that as far as mobile audio goes, he is the guru above all guru's IMO. If MC was the only maker that has his technology, then that is a good thing. I don't give a rats ass whether it has zero oxygen brasstwisted, navonejizzed, double shielded, whatsowhateverwhozit...I buy MC because it has never failed me. Pure and simple. BTW, the HDMI and S-video cords, are MC as well. As is my power station (Home Theatre Reference PowerCenter HTS 5100 ). I have 10g MC speaker wire in my car, but custom RCA's just using blue and gray signal wire, twisted together. IOXS (sp?) connectors.

Knukoncepts are excellent products, although unlike some here, I never shit on their build quality. I like that there are better quality and worse quality out there for people to choose from. I have read from this thread alone, that one person asked if this system will produce sound quality...that my friends, is in his ear and his alone. I have heard a car with all power acoustic (circa 1995) sound flawless. It is all in how it is amped, wired, speaker placement, crossed over, and tuned. Will that Infinity equipment produce good sound quality. Who am I to judge?

lotas · Post by **lotas** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:32 pm

10g wire going to speakers? Isn't that a little overkill? Heck I use 12g going to my subs and that seems big.