wire problem!

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:36 am

KikiTheCat wrote:
It's always best not to over-complicate things.
That philosophy applies to just about everything, too.

this from the king of complication................. :)

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:37 am

mattk425 wrote:well i'm using 16 guage wire and it creates distortion.

Speaker wire does not create distortion.

Improper installation of external amplifiers and the control setting on your radio creat distortion.

Also with the speaker wire sizes your talking and lengths there is no noticeable resistance.

mattk425 · Post by **mattk425** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:58 am

ridr4lif wrote:I dont think its the wire thats creating distortion. Are you running an external amp?

tedd

i'm not using any external amps yet, i was thinking to get two in the future, one stereo amp for my speakers and one mono for my future sub.
what do you think of amp brands such as mtx/alpine/kenwood?
what companies make the most realiable and most efficient amps in the market?

mattk425 · Post by **mattk425** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:59 am

Darthness wrote:could be the deck too.

thats what my problem is.

what can be wrong with my deck, if that's the problem?

Post by **GlassWolf** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:17 pm

distortion can be caused by turning the colume up too high (the amp in a head unit isn't made to run at full volume without distortion) or it can be caused by the lack of a proper high pass filter to prevent the speakers from bottoming out.

most head units enter audible clipping around 3/4 volume
MTX and Alpine, pretty good amps. Kenwood, total crap.

Post by **GlassWolf** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:18 pm

I'm not that complicated. my systems aren't, anyway.
I like to think I'm pretty straight forward.
At least when I do get technical though, I know what I'm saying.

Darthness · Post by **Darthness** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:00 pm

Well my case is: my deck doesn't have subwoofer controls or eq for front and rear. the subamp's rca's are running from the rear output on the deck. The sub is getting half its rms, so i use a fair bit of eq on it (high on mid, sla on 1 or 2, eq on low & m id on 4). With the volume turned up to around 25-35, on some songs and at certain times the fronts will distort on bass notes... with it down below 25, its nto as loud as i'd like it to be, especially the sub.

So basically im buying a pioneer deh 560MP (i think). It should allow me to control the eq for the fronts and sub, which is what i need! Being able to turn the eq for lows to 0 up front and 2 or 3 for mids should correct my problems :)

and make me a happy camper.

not sure what exactly this means but i'm pretty sure kiki said something alon gthe lines of what i did:
distortion can be caused by turning the colume up too high (the amp in a head unit isn't made to run at full volume without distortion) or it can be caused by the lack of a proper high pass filter to prevent the speakers from bottoming out.

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:28 pm

it can also be cause by using the eq to boost frequencies in an attempt to make up for missing power....

Post by **GlassWolf** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:02 pm

you could replace the head unit, or you could use an electronic crossover. either will give what you need.
over-EQing a system rarely benefits anything. usually it ends up ruining the imaging and sounding overly processed.
in worst cases, you add distortion as well.

JeremyC · Post by **JeremyC** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:16 pm

Smoker and KIki are right. Its best to only use an EQ for reducing a freq or set of freqs. Any time you start bosting alot of feqs (to get a stereo to sound good / loud / so one) your problem isn't in the EQ set up, it in the avaliable power your system has.

So if you want to fix the problem at the source, get bigger amps, and leave the eq for tweaking the sound, not making up for loss of power.

Oh yeah kiki meant neither, not either