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dmeyer07 · Post by **dmeyer07** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:12 pm

Hey guys.. long time no talk :) .. anyways i'm considering a new truck, im a ford man and have been looking at some 00-04 f-150's, pref. extended cab.

Goal: I want to keep this truck looking as stock as entirely possible!

Questions:
1. Looking for some speakers, i don't like the stock sizes, i believe they are 6x8 or something like that.. I was thinking bout some 6 1/2 up front and something else in back ( not sure what i want yet, im concerned about bass, so maybe stick w/ 6x8's to fill in the lows a lil more, or possibly something more along the lines of a 5x7... not sure ) Components would be nice, but like i said i want to try and keep this truck as stock looking as possible. To sum it up 2 sets of speakers, nice sounding price isn't to much of a concern this time, keep it lookin stock.

2. Headunit.. looking for Alpine once again, i am very impressed with the performance of my last 2 :) . Pref. not a fold down face, nothing too fancy, only needs uno set of pre amps, i decided against runing a amp for the speakers, lack of space i fear :) . Price, prolly under 700. Remote is a plus..

3. Subs! Ok here is the biggest concern i have! I love bass, but i love great sounding(SQ over spl) cars. I want a beatiful sound, i listen to rap,rock,all that shit but no country. I also want bass, not alot tho, i don't want anything reall booooooooomy, don't want to be rattlin shit loss again. Just something to fill in those nice lows, and still be able to pound.
BUT.. where the hell do i put them? or it? One or two.. i have always had 2 12" and have never heard anything else in my car personaly. What would you reccomend for sub size and quantity. Also where to go about placing them? if i had a reg cab, behind seat would be fine, but i want a ext. cab so the 2nd row seat is all the way agains the back. I've heard about moutning them in the seats, etc.. what do you reccomend?

4. Alarm! The most important thing to me.. Compustar ? Price.. under 700.. all the features you can gimme..

5. Sound damping, kiki i no you used lizard skin .. whats the prices on that, and what are the advantages/disadvantages of it.. Also what do you guys have to say about dynamt x..

Ight guys, thats all.. i no its kinda alot, but i been doing my research, and its that time again.. to get other opinons.
Thank you all very much, i'll be around more often, catching up

peace
david

EDIT: Amps?! Amps for them subs! and moutning location ideas?

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:21 pm

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/cowboobus ... /my_photos

if you look in those pics 10 and 12 are a 2005 f250 crew cab that i installed a single elevation comp 10 and an xs125.4 amp in. the guy wanted a stock looking setup so in order to make the most of the available space i built the sub box out of fiberglass so that the sub would sit in one of the bumps of the back wall and then mounted the amp under the rear seat. he will be back this week for more elevation speakers front and rear. i have always been a more is better type and thought loud was never enough but this sounds really really good. it hits real low and sounds great too.

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:26 pm

oh sorry i forgot about the rest of your post. you can usually fit 6.5" speakers in the factory 5x7 opening in fords with a baffle cut to size of the stock speaker. 5 1/4 will definitely fit but i have made 6.5's fit as well it just takes some finess because sometimes they need to be mounted from the backside in fords depending on things like tweeter protrusion in coax speakers or woofer excursion if the panel is real close to the speaker.

alarms in my opinion if you get a quality brand (clifford for example) as long as the install is top notch your good to go.

we used the dynamat on the last vehicle we gutted and didnt have any problems..if you can find someone selling it for real world prices that is..

dmeyer07 · Post by **dmeyer07** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:53 pm

thanks for the reply, i'll keep that in mind.

any one else?

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:12 pm

"1. Looking for some speakers, i don't like the stock sizes, i believe they are 6x8 or something like that.. I was thinking bout some 6 1/2 up front and something else in back ( not sure what i want yet, im concerned about bass, so maybe stick w/ 6x8's to fill in the lows a lil more, or possibly something more along the lines of a 5x7... not sure ) Components would be nice, but like i said i want to try and keep this truck as stock looking as possible. To sum it up 2 sets of speakers, nice sounding price isn't to much of a concern this time, keep it lookin stock."

DLS and Morel drivers have some 6.5s that will hammer, as long as you have the power to give them. They would have more bass output than most 6x8s would have simply because there isn't a lot of effort put into 6x8s-for a reason. You could do a braxial style mount or just a flush mount tweeter beside the mid for your application. If not, you could consider point source drivers like the Morel Integras, but the midbass isn't as solid.

"2. Headunit.. looking for Alpine once again, i am very impressed with the performance of my last 2 . Pref. not a fold down face, nothing too fancy, only needs uno set of pre amps, i decided against runing a amp for the speakers, lack of space i fear . Price, prolly under 700. Remote is a plus.. "

Alpine will work well, Eclipse, Pioneer and Clarion have really nice units, too, but really since you only want a pair of preouts and probably not a huge amount of control, it's more about build quality and reliability. All will work. I'd amp the speakers. If anything, a 4 channel with the rears bridged for subs, SOMETHING. Going with a lot of high quality equipment and then choosing not to amp the speakers is pretty much shooting yourself in the foot. And the type of speakers that are efficient enough to work off of a head unit usually have light, floppy cones, cheap surrounds, loose suspensions, little excursion capability. In other words, they suck. Really limits your choice in components.

"3. Subs! Ok here is the biggest concern i have! I love bass, but i love great sounding(SQ over spl) cars. I want a beatiful sound, i listen to rap,rock,all that shit but no country. I also want bass, not alot tho, i don't want anything reall booooooooomy, don't want to be rattlin shit loss again. Just something to fill in those nice lows, and still be able to pound.
BUT.. where the hell do i put them? or it? One or two.. i have always had 2 12" and have never heard anything else in my car personaly. What would you reccomend for sub size and quantity. Also where to go about placing them? if i had a reg cab, behind seat would be fine, but i want a ext. cab so the 2nd row seat is all the way agains the back. I've heard about moutning them in the seats, etc.. what do you reccomend?"
Will depend on if the truck has a console or not, but a downfire in a console between the seats works really well. Gives you room to make an armrest and big cupholders, too.

I agree with smoker on alarms. Any good one will do the job if installed correctly.

Sound deadening, Lizard skin is good stuff. Prices are on their site I think, http://www.newlizardskin.com Do that, put some Dynamat or equivalent on top and you'll notice a huge improvement.

dmeyer07 · Post by **dmeyer07** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:33 pm

what would you reccomend for the lizard skin.. the sound contorl or the ceramic.. or both? I'm not looking at spending a huge fortune on this...

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:16 pm

What about Second Skin?

I see Anthony from Second Skin on CAF all the time. Seems to be a reputable guy with good products and a solid business sense...

The Compustar alarm I bought is really nice. Has all the bells and such except the Spread Spectrum thing and a little less distance. I think it costs about 700-800 installed. But once you buy this alarm you will never buy another brand!

I would try to squeeze 6.5's in the front at all costs. Rear can be stock or just a set of 6.5 mids...

Ford uses a lot of 6x8 speakers...

dmeyer07 · Post by **dmeyer07** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:22 am

second skin... never heard of it. I'm assuming its like lizard skin?

Prices?

Features?

Thanks

dmeyer07 · Post by **dmeyer07** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:24 am

Second Skin Audio.com

Found the site.. Thanks

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:54 am

Call or Email Anthony.

He seems to be a straight shooter on the CAF forum. He will answer any question you have about sound damping.