Scosche equipment

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Tue May 03, 2005 7:34 am

anybody have any experience with this stuff? ive mentioned before that we are in the process of opening a car audio shop and the Scosche rep is pushing his stuff pretty hard and with the wire and kits they offer its a pretty good deal for us but is it any good at all? i know it is not going to be top quality but for those of you with business experience you know that a lower line of product has to be offered as well. im just thinking that if some kid has to save a few bucks on an amp or a set of door speakers this may be a decent line to carry but my questions for anyone who has used it are 1. is it at least reliable. doesnt overheat, doesnt cause engine noise because lets face it there is some equipment that will whine regardless of the install. im just thinking that if someone comes in and i can sell them a set of subs and amp that they can wire up and listen to that they can come in down the road and upgrade or move the amp up to the doors or something until they faze it out. most of us have been there and upgrading as you save beats the hell out of having nothing sometimes........

sinister audio · Post by **sinister audio** » Tue May 03, 2005 8:00 am

let me tell you about scosche because im a dealer. very bad to deal with, my salesman is like the hardest person to get ahold of, i have never got a complete order yet, im still missing stuff i ordered 3 month ago, amps suck, speakers are even worse, the salesmen dont know what they are talking about when they try selling you stuff. id suggest going with tsunami/metra they are some of the best people to work with and if somethig dosnt get shipped they will make it up to you. id highly suggest not going with scosche. oh ya they make you have an opening order and tsunami dosnt you could order 1 thing an be a dealer.

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Tue May 03, 2005 8:45 am

Scosche can be had at Wal Mart.

If you think you can undercut their prices go for it.

Chances are VERY high the prices they sell for are the same price or cheaper than dealer pricing...

audiobass10 · Post by **audiobass10** » Tue May 03, 2005 2:48 pm

I agree with Sinister on metra. That's a must.

Fishy · Post by **Fishy** » Tue May 03, 2005 3:46 pm

I noticed something interesting about the Scosche amp kits last time I was in Wally World. The kits that used to supply 4 and 8 gauge wire, now supplies 5 and 9 gauge instead. They either switched product or have decided to give accurate specs for a change.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product. ... id=1863080

Kind of disheartening as most local places sell 4 gauge at $2 a foot. I've recommended that amp kit on the ecoustics forum a number of times as a cheap and readily available source of 4 gauge alone. Not anymore. Knukonceptz from now on.

-Fishy

Fishy · Post by **Fishy** » Tue May 03, 2005 3:52 pm

Of course their product also may be more attractive to dealers rated that way. A dealer could justify selling more expensive "4 gauge" Monster kits along with the Scosche. Like was said you need to offer some low end stuff as well, but not if cuts into your higher end sales. After all 4 gauge is pretty much 4 gauge, but its definitely not 5, hehe.

-Fishy

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Thu May 05, 2005 4:29 am

4 is 4 but not 5 may be true enough but depending on the quality of the copper and the extrusion process some wire is just not up to snuff with the higher end wire. of course i think most wire is made by carol or general cable nowadays anyway so this may not be as much of a problem as it used to.

spkrman · Post by **spkrman** » Thu May 05, 2005 4:54 am

Wire is pretty much wire. Doesn't matter all that much where it comes from. Spending 3x as much as everyone else for wire has no use but to be able to say you did it.

Which btw, I use a scosche fuse holder in my install, gets the job done.

smoker · Post by **smoker** » Thu May 05, 2005 5:01 am

but there is a difference. during the extrusion process some companys pull the wire through when it is extruded while some just let it come through and when you pull it you stretch the particles of the wire and it becomes brittle and less conductive. this is why some wire will be real nice and flexible and some isnt. also dc current carries on the skin of a wire so the less stretching you have the closer the particles are and the less resistance to flow there will be.

spkrman · Post by **spkrman** » Thu May 05, 2005 5:22 am

skinning only happens with high frequency A/C.

more stretching = more flexable... and it would also lead to more strands in a certain run of wire, which you favored.... but its brittle and less conductive? huh?

wire is wire.