Front stage suggestions...

J.W. · Post by **J.W.** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:48 pm

so i MIGHT be buying a GMC Yukon next month, but definitely within the next year. of course, i've already started planning on the system to put in it. i'm keeping my 4runner so i have to come up with a whole new setup.

here's what i have come up with so far:
sub: Avalanche 15 (probably sealed to save space)
sub amp: either Orion HCCA 250 G4 or Orion XTR800.2 (is there an 800watt two-channel from the SX line?)

for the front stage i was thinking of running a custom three way setup. Ascendant Audio is coming out with some xbl2 6.5" 4ohm midrange drivers; gonna put those in the front doors wire 'em in parallel and bridge an Orion HCCA 225 at 2ohm for power.
then put a 5.25" component set (thought it would save a little leg-room and probably not make any difference in sound b/c they would be limited to a narrow range of frequencies, but if 6.5" would work better let me know)in the kick-panels, was thinking about the CDT CL-51 but really not sure here, and power those with a PPI A300.2 art series amp.

all of the tweaking will be done with an Audiocontrol electronic crossover.

does that sound like a good front stage setup? should i run those mids in mono like that? i want some great midbass up front and i was thinking that some good xbl2 drivers would do it, but would it be better if i just spent that money i would spend on those and the amp on a really good set of 6.5" components? i figured the midbass had to be louder with another set of drivers and 200 more watts up front, but i dont know. also, would the sound "match" with different brand speakers up front? should i just get a nice 3-way set and power it with like 150 watts or so?

thanks for the help ya'll. any suggestions/opinions appreciated.

Post by **GlassWolf** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:25 pm

if you want a more simple front stage that'll sound absolutely amazing, look at the Rainbow Platinums.
They're about $2000/set but I would eat my hat if you could find a much better front stage for the money. They'd sound amazing with suitable amplification.

sinister audio · Post by **sinister audio** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:31 pm

id love a set of those, if you wanted a cheaper set of 3 ways DLS makes about 3 differnt ones im sure you would be able to make one of those sets work for you.

J.W. · Post by **J.W.** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:28 pm

cool. thanks ya'll. so it would probably be best to get a nice three-way set and one amp instead of what i outlined above?
i'm looking to spend $800 to $1000 on the front including the amp. i saw the Dynaudio 360 on sale for $800; that set powered with a PPI A600.2 would be sweet, but slightly too expensive i think.
i was looking at the DLS iridium 6.3 and i noticed they are 100 watts RMS. how much of a difference would that make in loudness than a set that was 200watts RMS? 3db or so?
i'm looking for killer midbass. my favorite part of any song is towards the end of Pink Floyd -"Money" where the kick drums go off. doesnt sound that great on my infinity reference components. how's that sound on the Dyn's kiki?

Post by **GlassWolf** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:23 pm

honestly in most applications, a 3 way set is a bit of overkill and far more difficult to install and position for a good soundstage and good imaging.
you may want to go with a higher end 2 way set instead. better end results.
more isn't always better in this case.

J.W. · Post by **J.W.** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:32 pm

yeah i've heard that before. that's why i was thinking of doing a two-way set and just adding another set of mids ran in mono for some extra kick, but if that'll mess up the soundstage or you think i can get just as good midbass with a two-way set then i'll go with a nice two-way set and one amp. i'm all for spending less money :)
should i look for something that has a higher power handling, like 150watts+? or would that not really make much of a difference?

Post by **GlassWolf** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:39 pm

you could use separate midbass drivers or midranges in back if ya want, sure. depends how warm ya want the midbass.

J.W. · Post by **J.W.** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:55 pm

in the back would be ok? that would be easier. i'd rather do that, but i thought that would mess up the imaging more than putting them in the front? it wouldnt pull the soundstage to the rear? i guess if i ran them in mono and bandpass them with the lowpass at about...i have no idea?...then it wouldnt be too bad huh?

Post by **GlassWolf** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:34 pm

with a bandpass filter, and wired in mono as midbass drivers, no you won't mess up the soundstage if the front stage is strong. remember, it'd just be midbass behind you, and that's mostly out of vocal range and fairly non directional.

J.W. · Post by **J.W.** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:44 pm

awesome. bandpass at 200hz-2khz ok?