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by joeyc » Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:19 pm

Wow, I missed this thread. I tried the raptor myself, boy was that stupid. I ended up using it to run from a distro block to a small amp, and thats all its good for. There rca's, especially the "shiny" ones, are not recommended either. I guess if a guy was broke he could buy the 1/0 and use it as 4 guage lol

by cargodz » Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:52 am

[quote="Ryan from Ohio"]Anderson's has the XXX wire also. Its much similar to the Raptor issue... Just a heads up ]
That's exactly what I meant by it... If Raptor gets much smaller with their power wire... They'll be smaller than XXX and Boss.

by Ryan from Ohio » Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:32 am

Anderson's has the XXX wire also. Its much similar to the Raptor issue... Just a heads up ;)

by cargodz » Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:14 am

Well as far as I'm concerned with the newer Raptor power wire and amp install kits... I'm done. I even tryed to contact them about it with no response. I haven't seen a drop in the quality from the speaker wire, RCAs, or Fuse blocks and such, but the Power wire is really getting to me... Heck that 4ga. Install Kit has a retail of $49.95 and regular price of $34.00 (Not worth it in my book now that I see that the quality is dropping off). So I guess I'll stick with just getting the speaker wire, RCA's, and Fuse blocks if i need them and go with Audiopipe, American International, and Tsunami... Heck even the XXX's and Boss Audio's Install kits are looking to be an improvement over the way Raptor is going.

by William from NOLA » Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:10 pm

solacedagony wrote:Absolutely, insulation can't conduct electricity. :)
What does CMA on the chart stand for?
This:
http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14176/css/14176_37.htm wrote:The circular mil area (CMA) of a conductor is computed by squaring the diameter of the circular conductor is mils. Thus, a wire having a diameter of 4 mils (0.004 inch) has a CMA of 42, or 16 circular mils.

by solacedagony » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:58 am

Ryan from Ohio wrote:Youre right. But it isnt determined on the insulator, but the conductor. Furthermore, when you deal with stranded wire, the diameter has to be larger to make up for the difference between it and solid.
But the issue lies in current capacity.
All 4 Ga is supposed to be able to carry 150 Amps. 8 Ga is 100 Amps.
Now if this raptor is more of an 8 Ga, then it wont carry the 150 Amps...
http://www.the12volt.com/info/recwirsz.asp
Here is a table, took a bit to find. You will see as the strand diameter decreases, the diameter of all the strands together increases...
http://www.brimelectronics.com/AWGchart.HTM
Absolutely, insulation can't conduct electricity. :)

What does CMA on the chart stand for?

by Ryan from Ohio » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:43 am

solacedagony wrote:But gauge isn't a measurement of current capacity, it's a measurement of diameter, isn't it?
Youre right. But it isnt determined on the insulator, but the conductor. Furthermore, when you deal with stranded wire, the diameter has to be larger to make up for the difference between it and solid.

But the issue lies in current capacity.

All 4 Ga is supposed to be able to carry 150 Amps. 8 Ga is 100 Amps.

Now if this raptor is more of an 8 Ga, then it wont carry the 150 Amps...

http://www.the12volt.com/info/recwirsz.asp

Here is a table, took a bit to find. You will see as the strand diameter decreases, the diameter of all the strands together increases...

http://www.brimelectronics.com/AWGchart.HTM

by breakjunki » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:22 am

I thouht it was a diameter measurement.. I know smalller = bigger. For example, piercing jewelery, the gauges for those pretty much correspond to a standard gauge 4 gauge= a certain diameter. they have a little gauge wheel, that I've also seen shops use for wiring.. But I guess in raptor case it is 4 gauge, the outside diameter, not the wire gauge, which is pretty shady...

by solacedagony » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:08 am

[quote="Ryan from Ohio"]Im pretty sure that calculator is setup for solid conductor.

When you go with stranded it takes more to carry the same current ]
But gauge isn't a measurement of current capacity, it's a measurement of diameter, isn't it?

by Ryan from Ohio » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:21 am

Im pretty sure that calculator is setup for solid conductor.

When you go with stranded it takes more to carry the same current ;)

It may Bill. Even though, the Raptor isnt 4 Ga, no way.

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