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by Jonathan » Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:30 pm

What works in college doesn't necessarily work in the NFL.

Pat White is talented, but their offense (modernized single wing) is done so due to his specific abilities, and is pretty one-dimensional. While he is an incredible athlete, his talents aren't really what most NFL teams are looking for because an option offense doesn't work well at all in the NFL. It's mainly due to the fact that the defenders are too fast, too smart, and are too well coached to bite on it. Spread options, single wing, triple options, etc. just don't work, you can't base an offense on misdirection as much in the NFL due to the discipline of the players.

That's mainly why the quarterbacks that are drafted first are the ones that are more "traditional", based mostly on their decision-making, their intelligence in reading a defense, and their accuracy in a wide variety of situations.

by headknocker » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:54 am

I'm a big WVU and Rutgers fan and I'd take WVU QB Pat White any day over Troy Smith. He's taller,quicker, has a cannon for an arm and he has the heart of a warrior.
Pat White for the '07 Heisman! :thumbsup

by Jonathan » Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:10 pm

CaptainPioneer wrote:oh yea definitely... I was just soo suprised by the opening of the game with the Kickoff return to a Touchdown... that was ridiculous

There was holding on that, but I imagine nobody will fuss about it with that bad an outcome haha.

That was one of the best coached national championship games I've seen (Urban Meyer's behalf, obviously). Meyer and his staff knew that team like the back of his hand going into that game. You could see OSU digging and digging into their playbook and Florida's defenders were all over them on every single play. 82 yards is bad enough to just call it a shutdown, the defensive play was flawless. Offense was creative, they kept them off balance, they ate the clock up, didn't get greedy, and didn't make mistakes.

Heisman winning quarterbacks hardly ever win national championships, most don't even make good NFL prospects. Not just recently, but in the history of college football. I feel it's due to the nature of how the Heisman is awarded, it's given to "outstanding" players. If you stand out, it's either because you're a phenominal player (rare) or because those surrounding you are just "OK" (common). Balanced football teams win championships. Heisman winners usually don't play in balanced football teams, they usually play in teams that they have to make plays for, or they play in a weak conference where it's easy to shine due to a lack of opposition. I think it's that more than a "jinx" or the banquets and such. Plus, heisman winners might as well be wearing a bullseye on their chest because there's nothing an underdog would rather do than embarrass them. Add the fact that if that QB is the main reason the team is successful, it makes them that much easier to beat because it's pretty easy to pressure and rattle just one guy. Carson Palmer was the first successful heisman winning QB since the 1970s.

Troy Smith is a good QB, though, despite being a bit small I'm sure he'll be drafted pretty quickly. Probably the first QB to be drafted will be LSU's Jamarcus Russell. He's easily as efficient, very accurate, very calm under pressure, and probably has the strongest arm in the NCAA. He can throw it 85 yards accurately.

Brady Quinn is the other, but it was pretty easy for him to look good with that cashmere soft schedule. Notre Dame is consistently the most overrated school in the NCAA. They always get a media push and are ranked way too high for the shitty teams they've had over the last few years. Performance speaks for itself. Hey, maybe that's why they've lost 9 consecutive bowl games. That's not a good thing because it means whatever good team is lucky enough to play them first has the opportunity beat the shit out of them and rack up plenty of BCS points in the process. This year Michigan was that team. Notre Dame being ranked #2 before the season was just retarded.

by OnYrMrk » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:10 pm

Actually, it reminded me of when Jason White got the Heisman...we couldn't convert the National Championship then just like Troy Smith couldn't convert for his team either. Score was similar too.

Kudo's to Florida..I stand corrected...now I have to go vomit.

by CaptainPioneer » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:41 am

oh yea definitely... I was just soo suprised by the opening of the game with the Kickoff return to a Touchdown... that was ridiculous

by brent » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:21 am

I was especially happy to see their kicker finally hit a couple of FG's. 40 and 42 yards as well, pretty impressive. Helluva game, looked just like the OU-Boise game in terms of offense from Florida, but defensively, that was an embarassing outting for Ohio State. How about Tebow, he looks solid. He is gonna be a helluva threat for Florida.

by CaptainPioneer » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:06 am

Well another Upset for the Bowl games... Fiesta bowl results in a 41 -14 loss for the Buckeyes...

Man ill tell you it was definitely Florida's year.... Troy Smith... did not play like a Theisman Trophy winner unfortunately... His O-line sucked too...

Florida just really out did them in every category, and of course i think that their kicker was pretty damn good as well...

Any thoughts?

by Jonathan » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:50 pm

I like Oklahoma, though. They just can't seem to get their bowl games together recently, esp. the national championship games they've gone to.

UGA is and always will be my #1 team, why not cheer for the home team when they're good to ya, right? When I was a young teenager it was bolstered because in 1980 I met a lot of the players at a bbq at the home of some of my parents friends. They used to hang around there a lot. Pretty cool to meet them and later on watch them win the championship.

A guy I work with is Garrison Hearst's 1st cousin, he invited me over to meet him one day. That was awesome, too.

by Jonathan » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:01 pm

A lot of times it's easier to beat the team favored to win. Especially with the heisman winner on it. Many tend to get cocky and underestimate their opponents.

by OnYrMrk » Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:45 pm

Yea but as my favorite team found out, it is very damn hard to beat an unbeaten team. They have some kinda stigma about them. I hope Miles does well. But living here in Oklahoma, you get to hear about things that Miles has done that the news didn't pick up on..and that is where I draw my conclusions from.

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