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Oh yea and i tested out the G6 GTP... Its way over advertised as being "Ready to perform" The Camry makes that thing feel like a sluggish piece of crap. And i drove the 6 spd std... Also the gearbox is tight but is difficult to find the appropriate gears, also i would have thought that a more pronounced exhaust note would have been heard, but no its pretty docile for the High output 6 cyl... Im glad that i drove that car first and then drove the Camry because I ended the day on a High note... I had the Camry up to 100 in no time on the highway (Im friends with the dealer) lol and it wantted to go faster it really did... The GTP... Not so much i felt like i was struggling to keep it in 5th or even 4th gear. I guess if u like Coups and like substandard power go with the GTP but if u like power and will sacrifice looks for performance the Camry is the way to go

Haha well sorry bout the Ford Comment, When i get the car ill take a couple pix cause they didnt have a black one on the Lot but basically it is gonna look stock from the outside... only mods really is gonna be tinting and the System... also apparently the HU in the car has Subwoofer Outs on it... im thinking of using it cause its actually a nice radio, I guess if it does ill use it, if it works well ill keep it the way it is if not ill put a HU in it

i was giving you one instance do some research into nissan, consumer reports bash hard core on there vehicles and out of the 4-5 guys i know that have a newer nissan they all hate it and they cant wait to get rid of it.

Don't really think you can go wrong with a Toyota, although I TOTALLY disagree with the Ford statements made in this thread, but thats neither here nor there.

Yes Chris those Grand AMs are evil! Anyways, in regards to bwcad's comments about Nissans, they pretty well fixed all those problems '03 and higher, what do you expect from the first year? There will be some quirks but really, the butterfly valves aren't that bad of an issue if they get fixed, which most have had done due to the recall. The '02s also have some gear problems... which I experienced vs the Grand AM. 2nd to 3rd gear has some grind issues which can be easily fixed apparently by putting in redline transmission oil and getting a short shifter for it. I just don't think it's really fair to shit on a car company based on one of their models having issues. I myself have a blast driving my Spec V, and other than the 2nd to 3rd problem have had NO other issues with it whatsoever.

P.S. Sorry that this post has nothing to do with the topic. Also, congrats on your Camry sounds like a bitchen vehicle.

Sweet!!

Any pics? I've only seen the new Camry from pics from auto mags ect. Would like to see some more.

Needless to say... in 2 months that baby is gonna be mine... Black on Black!

Great News! Actually amazing news... I drove the 2007 Camry LE V6.... All i can say is Holy Shit that thing is amazing... Bottom line will out perform all cars in its class and some above... For instance this thing has 268 hp and gets great mgp and huge trunk space soon to be filled with the RE Audio sx... Litterally the tiptronic shifter in it is soo awesome so i can shift whenever i want and its high reving and dual exhaust is just soo sweet... I know u might not believe this but this car will outexcellerate and out handle a new BMW 5 series with the highoutput strait 6 in it!!!! Not by much in the Accelleration department, (..2 secs with a auto) 0-60 but man this thing hauls ass and is soo fun to drive and its very very comfortable!

haha i cant really say that i like the Yaris too much, but good news i was checkin out a bargain news and saw this for sale....

http://www.bargainnews.com/viewad.cfm?S ... ealer=4097

yea and from what I can see, they can't even beat a grand am...j/k Vindicate

actually, I would seriously look into the Yaris from Toyota, 40mpg, flat dash, big kicks, small center console, hatchback. Only $11,000 and you can take the other 14 to make it your own style. Excellent car to utilize a good system with.