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sub idea for rear deck of car

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:27 pm
by Robert Wollenberg
My friend has a 97 Ford Crown Vic. He's not looking for a huge system. I'm pushing him toward a simple two way componenet set in the front, and small subs in the rear deck. I haven't looked to close to his car yet to see what will fit where. We should be doing that in the weeks to come. I'm guessing 8 inch subs massaged into the 6x9 holes, or whatever is back there. We might go for a 10" on one side if there's room. Anyway, in an infinate baffle setup, speculating on an 8", what sort of suggestions would you guys have for a driver to work well in that situation?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:00 pm
by Ryan from Ohio
none.

I hated that setup in the Monte I had. 2 10's in a sealed box.

Maybe it was the subs... But it just sucked...

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:17 pm
by GlassWolf
for IB to work well, you need to totally seal off the trunk, then reinforce the package shelf with a piece of 3/4" MDF to absorb the weight and vibrations from the subs.
otherwise, don't even bother trying.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:17 pm
by Robert Wollenberg
That was my plan, MDF and fiberglass. Expanding foam where ever needed. When it's done, the back shelf should look nearly stock. If I don't F it up somehow.

Why is it so difficult to find T/S parameters on car audio equipment? IB drivers need to have a high Qts and a low Fs. I found some Morel and Dayton subs that arn't too bad. This is why I'm turned off by most car audio gear. I guess I look at it as, they must have something to hide.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:03 pm
by solacedagony
Dayton makes IB specific drivers, if you take a look at PE.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:01 am
by cargodz
Another alternative would be just to build a nice box for the trunk and then port up through the existing rear deck speaker holes to bring it into the cabin.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:04 am
by Robert Wollenberg
yeah, I thinking that too. He's got the trunk room for it. I'm not sure if he's ready to do a sub yet or not. He just got back from Kosovo, got married, and had a kid on the way. lol. It's the Air Force way ... get your girl pregnant, run off to a foreign county, find out she's pregnant, marry her when you get back. It happens all the time. lol. He is ready to do the front speakers though. He's got a so-so HU that will sufice and an older zapco amp about 50x2. I was leaning toward Dayton RS mids, which ever will fit best, and LPG tweets with Dayton crossovers.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:10 am
by solacedagony
What crossover point are they?

I think the RS150s would work, but I'd personally recommend a set of Seas coated paper or poly or Peerless Exclusives. For a 2-way, they're going to work better.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:53 am
by Robert Wollenberg
Well, Dayton has two way crossovers at 2k, 2.5k and 3k I think. I belive the LPGs power rating is based on 12db slope at 2.5k, so that's the crossover I was going to get.

He listens to a lot of rap type stuff, so sound quality is not really a factor. I automatically graivated toward the Daytons to keep the price of the system low. I don't know how much more he's willing to spend, but I'll see what I can talk him into. I really like the Seas and Peerless drivers. But off the top of my head, they cost at least twice as much.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:22 am
by solacedagony
Yep they are 2x more expensive. Where did you find info that the LPGs can cross that low? I can't seem to.