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Have you seen the new comp and comp vrs?

http://www.kicker.com/05/05kicker.html

Looks like they will be more expensive now... I just wonder if the will really be an improvement over the old comps and comp vrs?

man i must say looks are very suductive, i feel like buying some comps!

:shakes head: I am losing faith in Kicker. They go more of the way of Audiobahn every year. I think I might stop recomending them. Once a company cares more about the looks of a sub then the performance, it's time to stop.

They are starting to go RF.

Pretty soon they will be selling it in Best Buy! LMAO

RF???? what's wrong with fosgate? answer, nothing! show me another amp line that has all the features, warranty and US made quality,with the history of Rockford Fosgate. sure Arc, rainbow, zapco stuff like that is cool but it doesn't have the longevity of RF, or the deep pockets. Let me tell you something, we would not have this forum if it wasn't for Jim Fosgate. he basically created car audio. the latest models of rf are friggin awesome. The Power 30001bd is over 4000 watts in one chassis AND you can put 2 together for over 8000 watts! And you call RF crap? give me a break! By the way, RF is releasing its "25 to life" series, basically a re-release of some of the past greats up to now. on each quarter for 2005 celebrating 25 years of the Rock. RoFo for life fool!

and so what if the start selling in BB or CC? Best buy is a cash cow that helps build the top of the line products we all use! Clarion is in BB and you still like it! nothing wrong with selling in the big box stores. they won't sell the good stuff, just the cheao stuff. it greatly increases the buying power of a company. This is how business works. the more product you sell, the more money you have for R&D and the cooler stuff you get. its a fact of life and business.

welllll....

i agree, Jim Fosgate is one hell of a guy. started in '73 and since has made several legend products. but just because he did doesnt make RF the best ever and for always. i'm not sorry to say that i think there are better quality products out there now, that can rock most of RF's product line's world. technology will go on, and other people will emerge with better stuff. thats the way it works. rf is still good equipment, but there is better.

and i believe jbl also made a radical amp last year. something like 8k+ watts RMS. but really, just about anyone can build something like that, but its not cost effective, and its not practical except for hardcore rich spl competitors. you can't power that amp with even a heavily modified electrical system. about the only one that could is something i saw at a car audio show, where a jacked-up bronco had a litteral alluminum wall in a modified engine area, full with 9 200+Amp alternators. i dont even want to know how much that cost. and this truck only had one of those jbl amps, plus a few for speakers.

and the reason some dis on BB and CC is because rarely do they hire MECP installers. even then, they have little to no experience. working with lack of experience is where crap products belong, so the high school kid with acne can brake something worthy of it. on top of that, they tell you whatever they have to becuase they want to make a sale. they dont give a rats ass what happens as soon as they have your money.go to a real shop and talk to guys that live for this hobby. they care about money yes, but they care more about what they sell and what you're looking for.

Ryan from Ohio wrote:They are starting to go RF.

Pretty soon they will be selling it in Best Buy! LMAO

I heard that Kicker is going to Best Buy and Circuit City...

Never said RF was crap, so you must be sorely mistaken!

If they re-release the Punch series with the "chip" in the bottom (IX line) I will probably be buying. Well providing they also remake the amp links.

Them amps are classic and I wouldnt hesitate.

RF was just as an example. You can go into BB and buy HX2's (was there best sub). With CLarion you can only buy the low end line. The Prop Audio line is only sold to actual shops.

BB and CC gets a lot of rips simply because the staff is almost always stupid. I have only had one experience in CC where the installer actually knew what he was doing. I guess when I was prodding the salesman with questions I overloaded him. He went and fetched the installer