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My F-150 purchase solidifies.

That thing looks like the lovechild of a Titan and a Ridgeline

add in a touch of cousin lovin' from Dodge

It looks bloated. I'm glad my dad got an 06 and didn't wait long enough for this one to come out. The interior is nasty too.

I don't know what's going on in their styling dept. (really I don't care ). Have yoiu seen the 2007 Camry?

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Dr ... d=109049#8

Can we say Mazda 3/Honda Accord?

I've heard it's confirmed that Toyota will be in the Nascar Nextel cup series in 2007-which is bullshit. Pissed me off hearing that.

I thought this post said 2007 Tacoma; I was thinking wow it's out already.

I like the 06 Tacoma, and wouldn't mind having that to go along with the 4Runner.
But then by the comments you guys were posting that I realized you said Tundra. I really don't what they were going for with this new Tundra.

I was really looking forward to it's release too, I heard all the rumors about it actually going to compete with the f-250. Which maybe it can, but they made it just so unappealing to most Toyota owners.

The interior looks too Nissan, why did they go with that modern plastic fantastic look? One of the things I love about my 4Runner is the interior, very nice and luxury looking, yet holds up well. Then the exterior looks like a crossbreed of a Ford and Dodge.

Hopefully the 08 gets a better interior.

"I was really looking forward to it's release too, I heard all the rumors about it actually going to compete with the f-250."

The F-250 is about to get a HUGE chassis update and a 6.4L Twin Turbo Powerstroke diesel. This statement:

"Finally, Tundra will ride on a new rock-solid chassis platform with 30 percent higher tensile strength steel. "

pretty much proves it isn't going to be competitive. Maybe competitive with the F-150, but from the underbody shots of that Tundra, the F-150 frame is still massive compared to it. It's one thing to brag about horsepower and torque, but it's meaningless if you aren't able to control what you're pulling. The best truck to pull with isn't always the one with the fastest acceleration or the highest torque output, it's the one that keeps it's composure when you pack 8-9000 lbs of trailer behind it (or more if you have a HD truck). That's where Ford and Dodge have excelled over the years. Put a lot of trailer behind a Tundra or a Silverado and it gets downright scary, even with the Silverados rating being above 10,000 lbs with the 6.0L engine.

Toyota was thinking about the HD market after seeing how this full size does. But they and Nissan are finding out very quickly that this isn't an easy market to crack, especially saying Americans haven't had a reason to stop buying domestic trucks. If they went HD, I doubt they could sell 50,000 units, if that.

Jonathan wrote:I've heard it's confirmed that Toyota will be in the Nascar Nextel cup series in 2007-which is bullshit. Pissed me off hearing that.

why is it bullshit? is it because their car wont break down causing them to win every race? haha i heard something like that accually.... but consitering i have never watched more than a combined time of 15 seconda of nascar in my life i really have no clue :)

Because it will be the only non domestic brand in the ring. NASCAR is traditionally domestics only.

I wish we could go back to the days where auto sales were based on the race victories :)

William from NOLA wrote:Because it will be the only non domestic brand in the ring. NASCAR is traditionally domestics only.

ahhh that makes sense.... how did they end up sneaking their way in? does it have to do with them having a manufacturing plant inside the US? (not sure if they even do)

The Tundra is being built down in Texas I think