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I was at my local audio shop a few days ago and they mainly carry alpine and Jl and i had my 2 12"RE SEs in there. i was replacing my cup terminal cause it got smashed whe nmy car got his and the head installer was basically calling them crap and tried to convince me that alpine type Ss are better. i am pretty positve almost certain that my SEs are no copetition the better subs but i want some solid comparisions between the 2. i dunno it just made me mad that just cause i didn't buy from them they thought my stuff was garbage. give me t/s comparisons between the 2 so i can tell him whats up. cause idon't knwo enough abou that to back it up. i'm still learning

Well heres the best comparison:

Tell him to break out the mic and meter your subs. Then replace them with the Type S's and then meter that setup.

Also pay attention to the SQ.

Let the numbers speak. If its not in your favor go on SQ.

The SE should pretty easily stomp a Type S into the ground (and jump on it too) in both departments.

Most shops do this. Its just there way to try and be a prick to you for buying elsewhere.

I would simply tell them to do the work your paying for. Also tell they your not there for comments on your system. SOmetimes these people get annoying...

see i dont understand how shops get buisness with pricks like that.

The ultimate prick is the manager of the shop I do business with. This customer came in with 6 800w Pioneer Mono amps, three Oz audio 12's and wanted a box built with these installed. This prick (manager), knowing that we had to get my car out, took the day long project in, they installed it. couldnt get to mine, then when the dude came back, the same guy told the customer, you need to dump those Pioneer amps, get one (ONE) Crossfire 1000D, and three BMF Crossfire 12s and it will out pound those 6 amps and OZ audio subs. So the dude bought into it hook line and sinker. This is all because I pitched a bitch about spending over 6 grand in their small shop and they took in an install that some dork bought at a flea market. So when he came in, to cover his tracks sold this guy some equipment, lied to him about them hitting harder, and then smirks at me the next day. asshat

i cant stand A holes like that i dont sell people more than they need nore do i make false claims. i do explain the benifits of better equipment and try to give them a crash understanding of car audio and the in's and out's like power ratings on cheap amps. that way they can make a more informed decision about what they want. if i were you joe i would be looking else were. that is bullshit.

Yup...I have my new shop already scouted and contacted...I just have to wait for them to finish my install then I go to Tulsa to get the car tuned and to deal with professionals.

I was at my local audio shop a few days ago and they mainly carry alpine and Jl and i had my 2 12"RE SEs in there. i was replacing my cup terminal cause it got smashed whe nmy car got his and the head installer was basically calling them crap and tried to convince me that alpine type Ss are better. i am pretty positve almost certain that my SEs are no copetition

Did you let the shop guy listen to your setup? Your SE's would stomp all over the Type-S. Pisses me off when people say you stuff is junk, just because they never heard the name. What kinda amp are you running to your SE's?

OnYrMrk wrote:This is all because I pitched a bitch about spending over 6 grand in their small shop and they took in an install that some dork bought at a flea market. So when he came in, to cover his tracks sold this guy some equipment, lied to him about them hitting harder, and then smirks at me the next day. asshat

I'd watch it burn!

ya those SEs are nice subs i love the way they sound. thats pretty much what i have to deal with around hear all the other shops bad mouth mine cause i dont sell kicker or rockford but my RE subs and all my other brands will kick the crap out of their stuff. What part of MN are you from? if your not to far head on over here ill give you a free SPL test just so you can shove it in their face.

also sometime you might want to upgrade your power a little id put about 800 to each sub.