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You have to watch this vid. It's about 15 minutes long, but worth it.
The things they do to this poor truck, but yet it doesn't die

http://www.kylerdotson.com/up/files/hilux_broadband.ram

Lucky them, but I'm never touching one again. Quite a bad experience with mine.

Jonathan, you had a Toyota truck, or are you talking about your 93 Corolla that you had bad luck with? Toyota trucks are pretty solid.

i'll passr on most toyota cars... especially the trucks when "rednecks" buy them because they can't afford a decent chevy truck, hah.

"Jonathan, you had a Toyota truck, or are you talking about your 93 Corolla that you had bad luck with? Toyota trucks are pretty solid."

It was a Camry, it didn't ruin me on Toyota's reliability status as I have family that swears by Toyotas (hence, what encouraged me to get one in the first place). Only thing is that they swear by them to the point of being aggravating simply because of ignorance, for example, I had over 300,000 miles on an F150 and it had been an excellent truck. I was on the way to my parents house for Thanksgiving weekend and the ignition coil went out, being only 5 miles from their house I called them to come get me and take me to the parts store. It turned into a 10 minute conversation about how I needed to ditch my American truck and get a Toyota, that this was a sign that my truck was dying. Needless to say, I put a coil on it, drove it for 50,000 more miles, and sold it to a contractor that needed a work truck since I needed a gas mileage car to go to school. That's where my 93 Camry came into play, brand spanking new and babied the car like the creampuff that it was. In return, I spend near $4000 in a years time repairing the car and it was pretty much done by 160k. Not counting numerous problems from time to time. I was pissed about it, but it didn't turn me off of Toyota altogether, it's the simple fact that the cars are as exciting as a prostate exam and they lack the ability to motivate me to go to a Toyota dealership. Honda did a study of all automotive manufacturers and the quality of the vehicles a few years ago, and realized that all manufacturers had shockingly similar quality. But, they also did surveys about what Americans percieved, and discovered that people percieved Japanese Autos to be of higher quality and dependability, thus, the reason that every one of their commercials blurts out "It's a Honda!" at the end. The CEO of the company even made a public statement about it. As far as trucks, For the most part I've driven Ford trucks and I've had nothing but the best out of them. Right now I'm driving an 83 Chevy C10, some of the last really good trucks Chevy made. 350 with a Quadrajet, TH-350 transmission after the original croaked (a LONG time ago). It had 350k highway miles, I got it from my dad since he wanted to get, surprise, surprise, a Toyota Tundra since they then had a fullsize offering. Toyota builds a good truck, but the older ones are quirky and after driving them, I knew I didn't want one. They are tough, I'm not arguing that a bit, just stating my preference. I do like the new Tacomas, but for practical reasons, midsize doesn't do it for me. Gas mileage isn't much better than a full size truck, midsize capability, less pulling power, less interior space. I'd rather plop down on an F150. I really like the F150 since they squared it up and got rid of the jellybean "progressive" styling and got back to looking like a slab-sided Ford truck (like they SHOULD be), the interior is far ahead of anything out right now IMO, it's even displayed in the Museum of Modern Art.

If I had to buy a full-size truck it would definitely be an F150. I'm not a big fan of the Tundra, but I do like the Tacoma for a mid-size. I like the styling, performance, reliability and cost of the F150 over any other full-size out there. If I had a need for a truck, that would be the one I would get.

Honda did a study of all automotive manufacturers and the quality of the vehicles a few years ago, and realized that all manufacturers had shockingly similar quality.

That is really interesting. I always wondered about the actual quality of most vehicles.

Whenever someone makes a statement like that, I always ask for data :) Where is it and how can I examine it to make an educated decision?

kevinberry1 wrote:If I had to buy a full-size truck it would definitely be an F150. I'm not a big fan of the Tundra, but I do like the Tacoma for a mid-size. I like the styling, performance, reliability and cost of the F150 over any other full-size out there. If I had a need for a truck, that would be the one I would get.

I agree. My dad has a Tundra. I've driven it seveal times. I like it a lot, personally. Never had any problem in 5 years with it at all. I would rather a new F150. I've been looking at the new crewcabs, liking the space and style. I'm really hoping that next year they have the employee pricing again.

I know several people who have full size chevy pickups, and they have so many quality related problems it's not even funny.

My dad has a 99 z71, and the first problem he had was a noise in the engine. He took it in, and their fix was to put 50w oil in it. My dad thought that was odd, and when he got home read the manual, and right in it says 'Do Not use 50w' So he took it back and made them change the oil back. They couldn't ever find what the cause of the noise was.

He has had all sorts of things just break for no reason on the truck since then too.

His fuel gauge stopped working
His 4x4 light is on/off all the time now.
Something is clunking when he makes a sharp turn.
plus all sorts of little stuff just breaking for no reason.

He said if Toyota were to come out with a bigger truck, he would consider making the switch. He just doesn't like the Tundra as it is now.

My friends have had 2 Chevy Trucks.
The first was a 2k Z71, they have only had it for a month or so. Well the first night it rained the roof leaked and ruined the headliner. So they had to take it in, and get that replaced.

They sold that after a few years and got a 2002 full size. After having it a few months he noticed that it was going through alot of oil. He kept taking it in, and they kept saying 'can't find anything wrong' It was going through like a quart every few weeks. After taking it in, time after time, the dealership finally just said we'll just increase your warrarnty on the engine, we don't know what's wrong with it. I think they bumped it to a 100k warranty on the engine, but it just shouldn't use that much oil.

Just seems like Chevy, has alot of quality issues.