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I was originally gonna go with an Ascendant Avalanche 15", but I may not have the money in time to get one before their sold out.

I was next looking at getting an ID MAX; I've always wanted one and it would match up fairly well with my amp.

I really wanted a 15" sub though, so I could get the most spl I could out of the 800 wrms that I have to offer, so I've started looking into TC Sounds drivers, specifically Sound Splinter RL-P's.

I haven't read much on Sound Splinter subs, only that they are good and affordable. I did find a thread on an audio forum that compared the RL-P to the AA Avalnche, and most agreed that it was too close to call, and neither out did the other.

I guess what it comes down to is, I have an Orion HCCA 250 G4. I want a good quality driver that doesn't cost a million bucks, and still retains good sq while of course getting loud. It would be helpful if you guys could jsut generally compare the ID MAX 12" to the SS RL-P 15", and any other quality driver that you can think of.

im pretty sure that idmax is much more superior than the sound splinter rlp, how can a sub rated 600rms(or what ever it is) and then be advertised "known to run at 1000-1200 watts!). Oh and the idmax is a super if you dont remember sound splinter dosent have anything on that league yet.

Well, the Sound Splinter is rated at about 750 rms actually, and they say it's known to run at 1000-1200 watts so the consumer knows he doesn't have to stick to 750 rms just because that's the suggest wrms. I'm sure the sub is underrated, most good quality drivers can take more than their suggest ratings. I've heard a lot of good things about Sound Splinter, and they use TC Sounds technology, so I don't see how the Id Max is so much more superior. Thanks for your input though.

I think (not sure) they're about to begin using the TC sounds LMT motor design. LMT is actually more linear than XBL^2, but I haven't seen the methods used to achieve that, be it more inductance and so forth. Their prototype was fully linear to 45 mm (NOT a typo) of excursion one way, for a full 90 mm of linear excursion with NO drop in BL over the entire curve.
http://schismal1.homestead.com/files/LM ... arison.jpg

WOW...^that^ is impressive.

Me likey!!

TEDD

I'm sure it has it's drawbacks in some area or another. I'm curious to see the design of it, though.

yea...true. Everything has its drawbacks tho. Very interesting design tho.

TEDD

i really want a couple of the sound spliter 8"s, id say go with them i would sure try and they are at a great price.

I like the solobaric 12's bl curve. lol

I'm pretty sure though that I'll go with a 15" RL-P now. The price is good, and even if I'm not satisfied, I can always resell it and get some money back.

I'm not sure that their subs use that topology yet, I think it's still yet to come. I was just saying to keep your eyes open to see if it's a definite thing.