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shawndaddy wrote:just because 10 hz isnt audible doesnt mean wont happen. I don't get your argument. It also plays above 20hz.

I hope so, otherwise it would be worthless. what kinda box you got that thing in anyways?

onyrmrk wrote:I just liked it in the read that mentioned that 300-500watts is recommended. So 200watts or < than that would be severely underpowering it.

yeah but "It only needs about 150 watts continuous (300 peak) for full excursion @ 20Hz."

The cyclone retailed for a lot more than $40, but it doesnt matter.I am sure that my system will not compete with any of your multi thousand dollar systems. I have a 200 watt amp, a set of descent comps and a single 12" sub. I thought it was fitting that this forum dealt with people bragging about there 2000 and 4000 watt systems. I am very impressed with the sound of my system and I am sure that a lot of you would be as well.

For the record I farted a 170 spl

I have it in about a 3 cubic foot box. I am under powering it at 100 continuous. My d661 are underpowerd at 50 continuous.

You still haven't answered any of my Q's? What other subs have you used? Other systems? Got metered?

My system isnt the loudest, Im not hitting a high spl, I have no processors, I have no equalizers. And I've never had it on any kind of analizer. I've listend to several amature systems with two 15", and I believe my cyclone digs down deep comparable to two 15"s. If the focal you talked about is more capable, I would love to here it. I understand that focal makes great stuff. A lot of you have spent thousands on your systems and I am sure you can tell by the way they sound. I said I would square toe's. Let me refraise. I welcome and would be interested in comparing my system. I feel like a proud poppa, after finaly pulling together the pieces I need to complete my "cyclone system". I am sure all of you are familiar.

Matt, I have never competed, and I have only been to a few competitions. I have heard a few serious setups, one was a ppi suburban. I have been into audio for about 12 years. I have a good idea of what sounds good. I started with a 10" kenwood bass tube. I have had a set of petras prowlers, I have had tons of cheepo crap.

it's cool, I think we are all givin you to much of a hard time. Sorry to be so tuff. As long as you like it man, thats all that matters :)

thank you. I should have never used fighting words like "square toes" with you hardcore audio junkies. I am a junkie of audio myself. I understand the competative nature.

check out caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=42090 for more about the cyclone

ur a good guy man dont worry about it the fact that you stood your ground i like.!