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My Jeep is worth about $12k and gets 13 mpg. Do I pay the $2 for gas or the $5?

and fat people should pay more for food, right?

gas prices right now are based on speculation of traders on the NYSE, not on fuel usage. Truth is we have enough oil in the ground for a thousand more years, and the only excuse for the rise in prices is greed on the part of US oil conglomerates like Exxon and Mobil making record profits.

We can't all drive a 30mpg econobox. I've driven trucks all my life because that's what brings my paycheck. I've done contracting work for the majority of my working life, I built my house with supplies that my truck pulled, and I've saved myself a lot of money doing work that I couldn't do without having a truck. I also live in the country and need 4 wheel drive.

GlassWolf wrote:and fat people should pay more for food, right?
gas prices right now are based on speculation of traders on the NYSE, not on fuel usage. Truth is we have enough oil in the ground for a thousand more years, and the only excuse for the rise in prices is greed on the part of US oil conglomerates like Exxon and Mobil making record profits.

Actually Exxon-Mobil is the same company, but Texaco, Kerr-McGee (based here in Oklahoma) and Shell are all greedy as hell. You are right about having enough oil to last another 1000yrs. Shoot, there is enough oil in Alaska to feed us for over 500 yrs but they won't drill there. Weird

They tried to get a bill passed to allow us to drill in Alaska again. I wish they would. As long as the environment was taken into consideration in the process. I'd hate to see Alaska turn ugly on account of drilling for oil. But, I think it's possible AND keep everyone happy at the same time.

so if i drive a 200 dollar mazda pickup then i get like $.75 gas. that would be pretty cool.

GlassWolf wrote:my festiva did ~37MPG highway.
Check out the Loremo though.
157MPG, and 0-60 in 9 seconds with a top speed of 135MPH from a 60BHP diesel engine at a cost of 11,000 euros (about $18K.)
Makes that saturn and focus look pretty dull now, doesn't it?

even tho that looks soooo ugly, i would still buy that. is that even in the US yet? i havent seen any.

also the cheapest i saw gas around here was 3.09 ... and thats just because it was right on the border of NJ. in one town over its 3.25 for regular.

And on a side note, i dont think the car companies are even trying THAT hard for better MPG cars, mainly because this is a consumer based economy. Even if the gas goes up to $5 a gallon (i bet it will hit that by next year easily) people are still going to buy gas guzzlers. people dont mind paying the gas which is fine but this is why i dont see car companies coming out with better MPG cars in the next few years (i cant even blame the car companies because they just are doing what makes them money). but i do think this is going to be a problem if we don’t get more fuel efficient cars on the road or find an alternative fuel that doesn’t cost more than gas per mile because the lower class and posibibly even the middle class are going to have problems going to work, shopping, or even tourism because of the cost of fuel.

Yup. If that car made it to America, compact car buyers would think it's ugly. Then they'd tack on a huge snowplow front apron, some gaudy rims, and a huge spoiler in the back in order to make it look better, effectively killing the aerodynamics that help it attain such a high fuel economy.

I would take a wild guess and say that oil companies pay car companies and private researchers off to NOT come up with higher MPG cars. That way, the car companies, private researchers AND oil companies are all making their money off of us consumers.

ya they do back when honda had the crx in production it got 50mpg and you could get even better than that if you drove it right. and look at the cars now they barely break 40mpg and thats in a little shitbox.