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go for a hifonics with that price range.

Why not somthing better then hifonics in that price range. LIke a ED NINE.1 ?

well.. hifonics arent bad amps,they're middle of the line (not your walmart and fleamarket shit, way better then that. not your zapco, arc, jl etc). ed has a pretty bad rep itself.

yea hifoncs are good amps they get a bad name because of the previous company that owned them. API ran them into the ground and killed the name.

suleman36 wrote:So you guys are saying that the Alpine Type R 12 is rated at 500 RMS and you guys are going to throw 1000 watts rms + to it ????
Is this for SPL comp for burps or for daily driving ?
It doesnt add up

Rated SCHMATED. For instance, I had a nice conversation with a well known rep from Elevation Audio, first time I have ever spoken with him, great guy. This was in regard to last year's model of the EX15. They are rated at 900 wrms each. This is by far an under-estimated rating. It's safe to say, especially after the call, that 2000 wrms per sub at half-65% gain would suffice and not go overboard.

"Ratings", or thiele/small paramters, aka T/S params, are great for general knowledge, but keep in mind they are indeed GENERAL. IMO, any sub with 3" voice coils, depending on size too, can handle atleast 1000 wrms. This too is a generalization. Obviously x-max, x-mech, and other parameters come into play as well. However it has worked so far for me.........it all comes with experience. When I first started out I blew subs too, bigtime. Feeding 400 wrms subs with 1000 wrms, I am talking 12's in a sealed box 3 cu ft in size, lol. I used to be a gain-cranker too. I have fried subs by underpowering and over-clipping. After ten years, I have learned a lot and am STILL learning things on a daily basis....

Hands-on experimenting, safely that is, is the best way to find out what a sub can truely handle. My install with that Type-R was my first with a Type-R. I can tell you that 600 wrms will make the sub and you beg for more, in which you'll have to buy another amp, sell yours, yada yada.....

You can go Darthness's route too, sarcastic bastard, lol. Get dual 2 ohm VC's, wire them to 1 ohm, and get the 1005d, which is 1000 wrms at one ohm.... Again this is the nice thing about dual VC's, the flexibility in wiring options.

i had a mm4000.1 on my ea audio ex 15.

So which Hifonics amp whould you recommend for a Alpine Type R 12 ???

Budget being around $300 tops. What amp should i go with ?

suleman36 wrote:So which Hifonics amp whould you recommend for a Alpine Type R 12 ???
Budget being around $300 tops. What amp should i go with ?

Dude, you hijacked a thread. However, since I am nice, and not a mod, I shall be sympathetic to your aim. Look at the link I posted on either page 1 or 2, maybe even 3, but I think 2. 2 hundred and change for a BX1606d by Hifonics........

Bwcad1 wrote:i had a mm4000.1 on my ea audio ex 15.

That's uncanny. It just justifies what I never knew about this company and their quality of product. I will admit, having never used them before and having only online images and T/S params to go by, I was a bit nervous while they were in transit to here and full of "what ifs".... I was more than overwhelmed to see the size of just the magnet staring me in the face when I opened the first box. I was even more amazed at the muscle exertion it took to lift that sub out of the box to see it in its full glory. Once I saw the baskets, the dual spiders, and the cone/surround, I waited for my wood to go down and immediately wrote a big "thank you" PM to JFD for introducing me to this line of product!

Given that situation with an mm4000.1, maybe I will use both of my HC4002's at 2 ohms bridged giving each sub 2400 wrms each.....IF the subs were dual 2, I would run each amp at it's 3500 wrms to each sub, but ya know, I have to take the first step in going SQ rather than the SPL nut I have been....

Thanks, sorry if you feel like i hijacked a thread.