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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:27 pm
by joeyc
sinister audio wrote:The RE re12 has a Res freq of 20 so thats not to special. i did a bandpass box with subs that its Res freq was 30 and its loudess output was 20hz.
Yeah but with waaaaaay more cone area, and if this sub is worth a crap at all, that would be sweet!!

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:08 pm
by Ryan from Ohio
Dude its a SINGLE 4 Ohm driver...

:scorp:

What was that other gay company with a pot leaf for a logo?

What people wouldnt try to use hemp for...

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:04 pm
by Justin from Detroit1
I thought there was something about a cone that big not being able to move without flexing...

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:33 am
by geolemon
CaptainPioneer wrote:yea and as u can tell... Im a cheap ass so i always expect prices to be low... I wouldnt be suprised if they market it at like $1,399 and then have all the dealers sell it around 600-800 so as to make it look like a great deal
That WOULD be a great deal!. :surprised
I think you are optimistic -

The Audiobahn AWT-34 had an MSRP of something like $5000... and dealers probably not selling it much over their cost at about $3,000... and even at that, how many customers do you think you'll have? You might sit on it for a year, maybe two - it takes a special customer.

Part of it is, it costs a ton of cabbage - but even being "out of budget" range, if you actually saw the sub in person, and really looked at what makes it up, and how it needs to be built - you'd probably actually think it was a bargain for that price. :happy055:

Why?

Things get cheap when you mass produce them.
...and a 34" sub simply isn't going to be mass produced.
(neither is a 25" ] rather than cast, because the extraordinarily expensive mold-making expense for cast parts can't be justified for products that aren't being mass produced.

I'd say that if dealer cost on a subwoofer like this was anywhere between $750-$1000, that would be quite reasonable... and that means MSRP is probably more in the $2,000 range. Also, dealers wouldn't want to take on the risk of stocking a slow-selling sub like this unless they were selling it for $1500 or so (still able to brag "lower than MSRP). Not greed, but they could easily burn through that much in overhead, sales and display efforts, given that they could be sitting on the subs for months before they move one. ;)

It's the Ford vs. Rolls Royce comparison. Obviously, everything Ford makes is manufactured in high volume. By contrast, Motor Trend toured the Rolls Royce plant, and commented something along the lines of "Touring the Rolls Royce plant, and watching the hand craftsmanship and fabrication that goes into each Rolls Royce, I am not left wondering how they are able to charge so much for each Rolls Royce - but rather, I am wondering how they are able to charge so little for them!"

I'd be VERY surprised if this sub was going to be mass-produced (and I don't know of any off-the-shelf 25" baskets either ;) ) - that would be one risky decision! :surprised

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:36 am
by geolemon
Ryan from Ohio wrote:Dude its a SINGLE 4 Ohm driver...
:scorp:
What was that other gay company with a pot leaf for a logo?
What people wouldnt try to use hemp for...
Chronic audio?
Gold plated baskets at like $2,000 for a sub, to pull in that gangsta money, I assume? :p

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:38 am
by joeyc
You always put things into perspective...

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:40 am
by geolemon
Aw, I just found their website, and they went cheap. No more gold plated homey baskets. :(

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:10 am
by solacedagony
geolemon wrote:Aw, I just found their website, and they went cheap. No more gold plated homey baskets. :(
No more street cred for them :P