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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:52 pm
by JeremyC
Agread you can't really here how a box will sound with a program, but its WAY better than nothing. AND, you can't design a ported box by ear, unless you plan on making many.

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:58 pm
by Worst Nightmare
Very true. I'll take your advice Jeremy. You haven't steered me wrong yet.

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:02 pm
by GlassWolf
or just calculate them out on paper :)

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:45 am
by solacedagony
GlassWolf wrote:or just calculate them out on paper :)
Are you from the dark ages Glass? ;)

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:46 am
by solacedagony
Worst Nightmare wrote:I'll look into W/isd. I'm a sys engineer and don't put a lot of interest into computer gen sound progs.....
My "dumb" ear sounds best to me
It's not a sound program. It just lets you model frequency response based on the T/S parameters of your speaker and the box type/size that you punch in.

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:56 pm
by GlassWolf
well, when I was learning to do this stuff, MS Office apps were still run in DOS, so there really wasn't software for all of this.
I suppose I am.

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:04 pm
by solacedagony
GlassWolf wrote:well, when I was learning to do this stuff, MS Office apps were still run in DOS, so there really wasn't software for all of this.
I suppose I am.
Hehe, true that. My dad works for AT+T so the first system I was exposed to was a laptop (they made laptops then?) that only had DOS on it. Then he got an upgrade to Windows 3.1! Wow, it was all graphics and stuff! Hehe. He bought a system with like 8mb of RAM, 100mb harddrive and an Intel 386 in it. I started to teach myself QBasic on that thing. Then we got a 486 with Windows 95 when it came out. That was like the best thing since sliced bread.

Edit: Btw, do you still have all the formulas for this stuff on hand? That could come in handy to have laying around one day :)

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:54 am
by GlassWolf
yeah my first notebook was a 10MHz 8088, too. monochrome LCD, 20MB HDD, 3.5" external floppy drive.. old Toshiba T1000.

My first "portable" was an IBM PC/XT. had a built in 4" amber CRT, dual full height 5.25" floppies, no HDD, and a full AT size case with an attached keyboard that had a handle for lugging it around.
It was a beast.

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:37 am
by cargodz
Are you guys kidding :surprised
I didn't even learn how to use a computer till 10-11 years ago, they scared the hell out of me :help: cause I remember when a computer took up a whole room just to do simple math :)

Back on the subject: keep in mind that Kicker with all of their knowledge still doesn't design every box specifically for every persons liking, just a general product for the masses. I would add more polyfill myself.

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:44 am
by JeremyC
One pound of polly fill per every square foot of box = a 10% increase of internal volume.

So yeah he could make it a little bigger, but even then your only talking about a 2.2 cubic foot box. The .2 diffrence won't make that big of a diffrence with those speakers. The slope stayed pretty sharp till the box started to really gain in air space.