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i think its funny how its always cops on tv shown as marijuana specialists, and not a single doctor. I also hate all the crazy commercials like "you can just tell your grandma you didn't come to dinner cuz you were getting high". Okay, except that you can put any other activity in there and it would stil work....cuz you were getting drunk, cuz you were playin madden, cuz you were having sex. come on....

You have a good point.
I think that Grandma would only be upset because it is illegal, so let's not give her a reason to be mad and legalize it :)

Ummm, Justin, I hate to burst your bubble, but there have been MANY people that have died from MJ. I am a former Paramedic and personally have watched three separate people die from the effects of MJ. Yes it soothes you, so much that your heart just slows down so much that it no longer pumps enough blood to circulate enough O2 into your body. Then you actually die of asphyxiation (sp?). Your body has too much CO2 in it and not enough O2..why, because you keep on taking that toke.

To make the comment "No one has EVER died because of marijuana..and you can't overdose on it..." well that is just trying to justify the addiction. And yes, it is an addiction, just like alcoholism. People die every day from marijuana related problems, they just aren't televised like alcohol. That doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

Justin from Detroit wrote:Jared, until you do it, you can't comment on it. It hasn't even almost have similar effects as alcohol. You still have full control of everything you do. It's not like getting drunk where you wake up and have no idea what you did the night before. No one has EVER died because of marijuana. You CAN NOT overdose on it. How many people a year die because of alcohol? Somehow I can't fathom how alcohol is still legal but marijuana isn't. It's simply because the government can't control the production and sale of marijuana like it can with alcohol.

You CAN NOT overdose on it

I beleive you have to smoke a pound of MJ in a minute to OD.

People die every day from marijuana related problems, they just aren't televised like alcohol

Why wouldn't they televise it? There are so many sites about how bad it is, don't forget how busted you can get if you have it.

And to the people you saw die, was there anything laced in with the drug, did they use anything else?

Dude, no one has died just from smoking marijuana alone. You can't. Like High Society said, you have to smoke some outrageous amount in a very short time to overdose on marijuana. The people you saw die either had it laced with something, or were doing other drugs, too.

It's NOT an addiction either. Bottom line is, I used to smoke it EVERY DAY. No joke, every single day I smoked weed for about a year or so. Then one day, out of nowhere, I decided I was done and didn't want to do it anymore. I stopped that day, and didn't smoke again for over TWO YEARS. I never once had a craving or couldn't get throguh the day because I didn't smoke a joint. I'll still smoke every now and then, but I never have a craving for it, and I can go weeks, or even months inbetween without feeling a need for it. An addiction is your brain telling you that you NEED something. I have never had that feeling with marijuana.

I have to agree with OnYrMrk on that one. MJ has an effect on your judgment and your reaction times for sure. So, if you go smoke a few joints with your friends and then get in your car to drive somewhere. When that person pulls out in front of you or slams on there breaks your reaction will be just a little slow and could be the difference in hitting the person or avoiding them. If it had no effect on you then why would people do it? I am not trying to say that one is better for you than the other, just that they both have there effects on your body.

MARIJUANA MYTHS:

Marijuana Is Much More Dangerous Than Tobacco

Smoked marijuana contains about the same amount of carcinogens as does an equivalent amount of tobacco.

It should be remembered, however, that a heavy tobacco smoker consumes much more tobacco than a heavy marijuana smoker consumes marijuana.

This is because smoked tobacco, with a 90% addiction rate, is the most addictive of all drugs while marijuana is less addictive than caffeine.

Marijuana Causes Brain Damage

The most celebrated study that claims to show brain damage is the rhesus monkey study of Dr. Robert Heath, done in the late 1970s.

This study was reviewed by a distinguished panel of scientists sponsored by the Institute of Medicine and the National Academy of Sciences.

Their results were published under the title, Marijuana and Health in 1982.

Heath's work was sharply criticized for its insufficient sample size (only four monkeys), its failure to control experimental bias, and the misidentification of normal monkey brain structure as "damaged".

Actual studies of human populations of marijuana users have shown no evidence of brain damage.

For example, two studies from 1977, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) showed no evidence of brain damage in heavy users of marijuana.

That same year, the American Medical Association (AMA) officially came out in favor of decriminalizing marijuana. That's not the sort of thing you'd expect if the AMA thought marijuana damaged the brain.

No One Has Ever Died Of A Marijuana Overdose

This is true. It was put in to see if you are paying attention. Animal tests have revealed that extremely high doses of cannabinoids are needed to have lethal effect.

This has led scientists to conclude that the ratio of the amount of cannabinoids necessary to get a person intoxicated (i.e., stoned) relative to the amount necessary to kill them is 1 to 40,000.

In other words, to overdose, you would have to consume 40,000 times as much marijuana as you needed to get stoned.

In contrast, the ratio for alcohol varies between 1 to 4 and 1 to 10. It is easy to see how upwards of 5000 people die from alcohol overdoses every year and no one EVER dies of marijuana overdoses.


I made the whole last statement bold for emphisis.

Chris from MI wrote:I have to agree with OnYrMrk on that one. MJ has an effect on your judgment and your reaction times for sure. So, if you go smoke a few joints with your friends and then get in your car to drive somewhere. When that person pulls out in front of you or slams on your breaks your reaction will be just a little slow and could be the difference in hitting the person or avoiding them. If it had no effect on you then why would people do it? I am not trying to say that one is better for you than the other, just that they both have there effects on your body.

Yes, it does effect your reaction time, but not even close to what alcohol effects it. Alcohol is still legal, because people are supposed to use judgement when they drink, and know when not to drive. The same thing goes for marijuana. When you smoke, you should use good judgement and know when you should not be driving.


Another marijuana myth :
Legal Marijuana Would Cause Carnage On The Highways

Although marijuana, when used to intoxication, does impair performance in a manner similar to alcohol, actual studies of the effect of marijuana on the automobile accident rate suggest that it poses LESS of a hazard than alcohol.

When a random sample of fatal accident victims was studied, it was initially found that marijuana was associated with RELATIVELY as many accidents as alcohol.

In other words, the number of accident victims intoxicated on marijuana relative to the number of marijuana users in society gave a ratio similar to that for accident victims intoxicated on alcohol relative to the total number of alcohol users.

However, a closer examination of the victims revealed that around 85% of the people intoxicated on marijuana WERE ALSO INTOXICATED ON ALCOHOL.

For people only intoxicated on marijuana, the rate was much lower than for alcohol alone. This finding has been supported by other research using completely different methods.

For example, an economic analysis of the effects of decriminalization on marijuana usage found that states that had reduced penalties for marijuana possession experienced a rise in marijuana use and a decline in alcohol use with the result that fatal highway accidents decreased.

This would suggest that, far from causing "carnage", legal marijuana might actually save lives.

Yes i agree with that, but just like with alcohol people often do not use there better judgement. They drive while impaired by MJ and cause accidents and deaths.

Chris from MI wrote:Yes i agree with that, but just like with alcohol people often do not use there better judgement. They drive while impaired by MJ and cause accidents and deaths.

I'm not arguing that. I'm just simply stating that alcohol has a much, mugh higher accident and death rate then marijuana. A HIGHER number, yet it is still legal and marijuana isn't. The whole way of the government's thinking is totally screwed on the subject. It's LESS damaging to the body then alcohol, and alcohol causes MORE deaths (over 5000 a year), yet it's still illegal while the deadly one is legal.

The war on drugs cost over $19 billion a year in 2003, why not spend this money elsewhere like helping the needy. They spec $600 PER SECOND on this bullshit. Imagine how many homeless that could shelter, how many needy children that could feed.