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I'll check it out.

Thanks

"aside from the gayass bling factor and the overly tacky gimmick install tricks they do, they also state obviously false facts about the systems tehy install."

7,000 watts of pure Audiobahn powa in the truck bed! Oh yeah, and Bazooka bass tubes in the interior, but who sits inside the truck?

"Foose's show gets a little cheesey with the pranks they pull to gank the car for a week from the owner as a surprise"

The IRS recorded message this week was pretty funny, they should have kept running with that for a little while :)

yeah that was one of the best ones so far.

Here's the thing most of you are not thinking about. I watch PMR fromt ime to time, mostly to see what ridiculously crappy car they are going to PIMP (I especially liked the one where they found a LIVE rat behind the dashboard!) But what PMR, Unique, and the like have done for our sorry to say, but diminshing industry, is help spawn a new generation of customers. I know a lot of you are in retail, I used to be and now I am at the manufacturer level, we all know the past few years have seen a steady decline in the sales for mobile electronics industry. More kids are buying xboxes and stealing fake car in GTA III than buying actual cars with actual systems. Most of todays high schooler are satisfied with the anemic audio they get from a single earbud and their F-ing iPod ( I hate those F-ing things) What ever happened to friggin' stereo? When I was in highschool the headphones couldn't big enough or loud enough, now they just use one ear so the can walk around while stocking the shelves at Walmart (true story, saw it 2 nights ago) But now we have a new stream of young customers who are discovering car audio for the first time, and they like it. they see theses cool guys like funk master flex and Xhibit and Jesse James and they want that. Its cool. They might not be able to afford it, but hey, I can get the screen and in dash dvd player. I really don't need a cappucino maker in my car anyways. There are a lot of naysayers out there who put down down these shows and yeah, they go overboard, they are too flashy and ridiculous but let me ask you this- What about today's pop culture is not big, over the top fashy and ridiculous? Girls wear things hanging out of thier pant which are cut too low and too high, with shirts that barely qualify as bras, cell phones can barely make a call but they have 37 games, a billion options for ringtones and can fit in the palm of a chihuauha(?) Video games are more realistic than life, and simlulate everything from driving 200+ to getting some action from prostitute. If its not over the top and ridiculous, its not reaching today's kids. its a simple fact. There are a few of us who are older, Myself, Kiki, etc who have seen the heyday of car aduio and now see it slipping away. These shows have resurrected an honestly dying industry. How many new cars can take a replacement head unit? How many manufacturers are looking to cash in on the iPod movement just to sell something? Without shows like these, our days of excess are limited. Everything is getting smaller and more efficient. the day is coming when your stock h\u will provide 200 per channel and 1000 for the sub, which are all invisible because they have been integrated into the head liner and seat cushion with planar technology that has now come to the point of almost being efficient enough to realistically use. So don't bash the shows that are bringing a new life to your hobby. Instead celebrate them. Yeah they are over the top and do some stupid stuff sometimes, but today's kids are stupid. they like that crap. All the stuff we found cool in the eighties and nineties is weak by today's standards. Its not enough to have a fiberglass tub in the trunk, now it has to have waterfall with 3.7 million LEDs lighting up a moving image of a "type-r" logo.

now that I have said all that, yeah its the dumbest shit I've ever seen. and who the hell is that upholstery guy? he does some of the ugliest crap I have ever had the displeasure of seeing in my life! Green on gold? Jesus christ that is hideous! And yeah, I really need an F-ing juicer in the back of my volkswagon. 30 minutes in the LA sun and all those fruits and vegatables will be a nice baked goop permanently attached to the green-on-gold vinyl rear deck. yeah right. pimped my ass. bring on the dingleberries!

Very well put. I agree with you, yea everything is over the top, but atleast its bringing back the industry. Oh, and im one of "today's kids", does that qualify me as "stupid"? Lol j/w

I am older as well, and have witnessed the demise of audio over the last few years. These shows could possibly resurrect that to an extent, but really I see the high quality, more conservative audio companies as the ones that are at the most risk. Let's face it, PMR isn't exactly reaching Dynaudio/Rainbow/Focal potential buyers, they're reaching to a demographic that will stuff the wallets of Pyramid and Pyle. The focus of the industry today is like comparing a high performance drag car to a tame, mellow cruiser. The cruiser is the more refined and could be the more pleasurable experience (to some), but it just doesn't excite those that are viewing from a distance. Modern culture has a large effect upon the industry as well. Example of the intelligence of today's generation: Modern rap. Keep in mind I'm not putting down rap in general, as when it started it was good, but now it is the most mindless, tasteless music genre I've ever encountered. I'd take Disco over a wanna-be gangstas ostentatious use of the words "bitch" and "fuck" to try and prove himself.

That last most made me think about how I used to spend my money in high school (10 years ago) versus what I see teens buying today. I do notice more personal electronic devices like mp3 players, cell phones, laptops, etc. I was into car audio, even though I started with some crappy equipment that I thought was cool at the time. I guess I never thought that there has been a decline in car audio, probably because there are more manufacturers today when compared to the mid 90's.

I still don't like PMR because it is so excessive. I'm impractical to a point, but every episode seems to be more about shock value than utility. The worst was seeing the LCD screens in the front and rear fenders. Those things will either get stolen or destroyed on the highway in no time.

the problem with shows like PMR is that they appeal to and promote the furthering of the audiobahn type crowds.. which are the ones I waste so much of my time trying to re-educate.
The companies that used to lead the car audio world are now the corporate owned, mass production circuit city fare companies on the shelves right next to audiobahn. Yes, I think our civilization is sliding downhill in a big way, and yes, most of the kids I meet are stupid. I meet a few exceptions, but most of them are pathetically educated for their age, and don't show much sign of future improvement. That makes me fear for my own future as much as it makes me fear for that of our country's and the world's future.
It really saddens me to see just how dumb humanity really is on the whole when I stop and give pause to ponder it.. it's really depressing in fact, and it doesn't help any that I see my own flaws as easily. What I see is a close parallel between modern Western civilization, and that of ancient Rome. I see our present position much like that of Rome as it was sliding into it's decline and destroying itself from the inside out with a loss of morality and social structure and enlightenment.

welcome to my world. *rolls eyes*

whoaa.......deep. it is definitely a different world than the one i grew up in....when i was in high school if you had driven a jetta or civic we would have busted your ass daily for it...it didnt matter that my camaro was in primer and didnt have air, if it would have had air i would have pulled it out to gain a few ponies. then rap music came along and then people couldnt pull their pants up anymore and then hondas became todays hotrod. its just different, not all bad really, i can sort of dig a honda now that they make a truck and i like some of the things being done to the little cars but if this business is going to continue to thrive this is the demographic the must be reached, educated and given options. i see daily kids who come in and just simply dont know any better than theyve been told.

i see it alot when people come in and they have idea what in the hell they are talking about and dont know what they want but i guess thats why we are there to educate people into buying the right stuff.