Rap

[GlassWolf]

ok no need to make this personal. people are free to voice their thoughts in this forum with relative security from personal attacks. Anyway, no never did like weezer much. I remember when they got popular and that Happy Days video of theirs got horridly overplayed. I couldn't for the life of me see why anybody liked the song to begin with. It just grated on my ears like a dental drill. I remember going to bed at night and praying for world peace, an end to disease, and a swift death to that band without anyone really noticing their absense. :)

It's cool if some of you guys like Weezer.. just so long as I don't have to sit in the same car with that CD.. haha

[MobileAudio219]

ok no need to make this personal

Thats true, wasn't meaning to insult him, but I can see where I probably did.

Anyways, Mithrandir sorry I got out of hand there... Can you forgive me?

And yeah, it should of been you're as opposed to your.

[GlassWolf]

English is a tricky language anwyay.. lie and lay, your and you're, their they're and there, who's and whose and so on.. knowing when to use what. If you didn't enjoy or excel in English in school, chances are you're not going to master English grammar.
I have a degree in it and I don't even try on the net. I go for understandable without glaring errors, and hope to leave it at that.

[Mithrandir]

I said tend to become more violent as in after listening to rap i would feel more prone to walking up to someone who is staring at me and getting in their face. Im not immature however i believe music can effect you on subconcious levels. The biggest thing is you see all these rappers out there making millions of dollars and they all talk about selling drugs killing and smackin up hoes ect.... well young kids will look up to them and begin to believe well they have all these great things and no one thinks what they are doing or singing about is wrong so why not do it ourselves. Yes they need to be responsible but when your a teenager there is a lot going on and music can be a very bad influence especially when parents havent taught their kids the difference between right and wrong. Our society lacks moral value almost totally. Finding a virgin guy or girl (lets say ages 13-21) in my town would be a hard task. Id say its about 80% non virgins 20% virgins and you may say that isnt so bad but if you really think about it, it is. Our society is portraying the image that its ok to have sex when your 13 or dress like a slut. It isnt, then you see these 15 and 16 year olds with kids, its frankly sickening. You can insult my maturity all you want, i know who and what I am, i know my values and I stick to them which makes me a hard person to be friends with. I feel if your not part of the solution your part of the problem.

EDIT: Actually i re read your post and its extremely insulting. My parent (one) raised me very well. I am very much more mature in certain ways than many people I see from day to day so yes i do take your post offensive. I am 19, i can legally buy my material and I know the difference between right and wrong. Just because I said something tends to make me violent doesnt mean I act out on the feeling. Maybe I am a danger to todays society, i dont know and frankly I dont really care. (your probably gonna go on about calling me immature after these next few comments). Todays society is on a path that will lead to self destruction. Moral value, honesty, honor, valor all of this is fading away into nothingness in a lot of our society. People will do almost anything for money from what I see, and now little smart ass wanna be gangstas are riding around in my neighborhood shooting up random houses for fun. Well one thing is for sure, if one of my family members would get shot, i would not hesitate to go find my self an MP5 find these little bastards and blow their bodys into a bloody pulp. Im not perfect and have never claimed to be but I think society needs to rethink a lot.

Edit again: This post was in no way ment to be ignorant to you, and yes i forgive u for ur post lol

[Mithrandir]

you could compare the effects of music to drugs and alcohol in changing the mood or the way someone acts, maybe not as much as either of them but in some people it could, especially if they have problems and have lived a hard life.

[GlassWolf]

well, drugs and alcohol physically, chemically alter one's brain and as a result, their behavior. Music at worst has a secondary effect in that the release of natural chemicals such as endorphins or adrenaline being released into the body can affect in some way a person's behavior, but that's quite a stretch to compare the two.
...just on a medical note.

[MobileAudio219]

I agreed that I should of went at my post in a better manor, and for that I'm sorry.



However, trying to blame the problems of todays society on music/movies is the typical cop out. Why take responsibility for our actions when we can push them off on somebody else? Why shouldnt we comitt crimes when we can just blame others for our actions. Surely you see where I'm getting at?

[Mithrandir]

yeah i do, i wasnt trying to say that i just ment it can have a big influence on people i never said it was an excuse, but i believe it is adding to the problems we have as a society.

[Fishy]

I'm not at all sure society is in a worse state than it was in the past, but it probably is. Its just that with today's media we are made more "aware" of the problems. A lot of really bad stuff has gone on in the past that was simply swept under the rug or ignored. Its interesting to try and understand why people do the things they do, but the real danger, I think, lies in the tendency for people to become apathetic or even accepting of things when constantly bombarded by stories of aberrant behavior to a point when its no longer considered aberrant.

Regardless of whether we are worse off now than before its good to have a few outraged young people like Mith hanging around and voicing their opinions. It helps keep things real.

:)

-Fishy

[MobileAudio219]

its good to have a few outraged young people like Mith hanging around and voicing their opinions. It helps keep things real.

:)

-Fishy

X2 plus he does good in the debates.