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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:32 am
by Mithrandir
JeremyC wrote:Rockets huh?
So your comparing "suck bang blow" to mixing 2 fuels and igniting.
I'm hoping you understand how a jet engine works, and that adding something dense enough to fall to the earth from 30K+ feet after going through the a jet engine would cause complete destruction of the compression section.
That leads to my next point.
Most airliners travel at above 30K feet.
Lets "assume" your right and they are adding stuff to the exhaust.
Were talking about 6+ miles up in the air.
Imaging dropping a hand full of paper shredding at 6+ miles, doing 400 knots.
Now add in cross winds up to 100, 120 miles and hour.
So that hand full of paper is now spread out how far?
10 Miles?
100 miles?
Go watch that video again and look at how much stuff he collected from the jars in his yard.
So how much crap would have had to be released at altitude to get that type of concentration at ground lvl?
Ok back to the chemical weapon thing. When deploying chemical weapons you want the vapor, gas or liquid to be as concentrated as possible at ground lvl. Thats why chemical weapons are designed to disperse at a couple thousand feet. In order for the weapon to have an effect on the population, let alone being persistent enough for people to be infected it has to stay some what concentrated.
Wind, sun, and rain all have an effect on chemical weapons once they have been deployed.
Hell 10% bleach solution is the air force cure all for deconing personnel and clothing before you enter a clean area.
Taking all of this in effect.
Im just sayin dude, it seems fishy to me, i agree one video and water sample isnt enough to base somthing on but its a start
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:44 am
by Jon
Bwcad1 wrote:The fact that our government labeled a section of its own people terrorist's because we don't believe what they do is oppression to the T and that in it self goes against everything this country was founded on.
I am highly against anyone pushing any opinion on anyone for any reason however calling me an extremist for standing up and disagreeing with an opinion is bullshit.
Well naming someone like Timothy McVay a terrorist is perfectly fine with me. If there are others that sympathize with him and his cause, they can be labled terrorists too.
Now Bill, I don't think you are some wacko guy who plans on doing harm to others. You are a gun collector, sportsman, and a normal guy that has self defense in mind. But, take that up a notch to blowing up buildings or mass shootings and you are now the target of the governement, rightfully so IMO.
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:46 am
by Bwcad1
Jon wrote:Well naming someone like Timothy McVay a terrorist is perfectly fine with me. If there are others that sympathize with him and his cause, they can be labled terrorists too.
Now Bill, I don't think you are some wacko guy who plans on doing harm to others. You are a gun collector, sportsman, and a normal guy that has self defense in mind. But, take that up a notch to blowing up buildings or mass shootings and you are now the target of the governement, rightfully so IMO.
Exactly my point! I'm being labeled an extremist because im standing up for what i believe is right which lumps me into a category like they assholes you speak of. That in it self is y im am so open and angry about it.
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:11 am
by Jon
Bwcad1 wrote:Exactly my point! I'm being labeled an extremist because im standing up for what i believe is right which lumps me into a category like they assholes you speak of. That in it self is y im am so open and angry about it.
Well, this is just my observation, but I didn't think anyone was lumping you in with them. I guess that is where we differ. I see you as a red blooded American guy doing his thing. I am sure that anyone that took his time would see that as well.
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:07 am
by Mithrandir
Jon wrote:Well, this is just my observation, but I didn't think anyone was lumping you in with them. I guess that is where we differ. I see you as a red blooded American guy doing his thing. I am sure that anyone that took his time would see that as well.
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the government is lumping him in that category.....
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:11 pm
by Jon
Mithrandir wrote:the government is lumping him in that category.....
Dude, that is your opinion. No where in the document you posted did it say that law abiding gun owners are terrorists. So next time you want to get us all riled up about nothing, make sure you can tell the difference between a fact and a cooked up conspiracy theory.
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:38 pm
by OnYrMrk
(U) Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and
adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups),
and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or
rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a
single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.
none of those speak of being a Christian.
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:51 pm
by colemanyoungerinalaska
seem like youre into conspiracy stuff Mithrandir you ever heard of HAARP ive been to the HIPAS observatory b4 they do some crazy stuff there and its real never been to the HAARP station but ive been real close i love wrangle and glenallen someday i will move there or cordova but thats besides the point you should look into HAARp/
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:08 pm
by cargodz
Well I guess for older guys like you and me Joe, they don't categorize us the same way, since we were raised as Christians and our fathers had guns just like everybody else.

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:44 pm
by Mithrandir
colemanyoungerinalaska wrote:seem like youre into conspiracy stuff Mithrandir you ever heard of HAARP ive been to the HIPAS observatory b4 they do some crazy stuff there and its real never been to the HAARP station but ive been real close i love wrangle and glenallen someday i will move there or cordova but thats besides the point you should look into HAARp/
yeah, its crazy shit cause pretty much all of it is true, its mind blowing, yes ive heard of HAARP.
Sorry i ment religious, not christian, there is a 2nd document that says Christian Faith as an extremist sign.