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I have to go with smoker on this one. Lets keep it simple.

List the brands, and a few notes about them.

Lets use sony as an example.

Sony, Old mobile ES stuff is excellent. There new head units have some nice features and seem to be pretty reliable. Stay away from the X-Plode amps and speakers. They have a high failure rate.

We could even put a little note if something REALLY stands out.

Like Bravox Kevlars.

Bravox, Great all around speaker company, with a low failure rate, and good SQ. There Kevlar Comps REALLY stand out for the price. Amazing output and midbass clarity, even with low power.

If we keep it simple its way easer to make an update later on.

I agree with the Overall outlook with side notes for the main revamp as well... we could work out a complete list later, just as was done after the original.

The reason I say to keep it simple is the expanded list didnt fare to well if i remember correctly?

Lots of back and forth arguments, etc. without much output to time spent. Just my observations.

If you guys want to compile a more comprehensive list, fine. But I would say start with the simpler task first

[quote="Ryan from Ohio"]
If you guys want to compile a more comprehensive list, fine. But I would say start with the simpler task first ]
^ Agreed

It's hard to tell the way to go. I mean, I too agree with smoker, but then I think it would be more beneficial for newbies to have it broken down.

Which ever way we go with it, we need to keep it simple enough to update. That's something we all need to work on, is making sure we keep that thing current.

I hate seeing it get ripped apart on other forums, because we don't have XX here, or YY there. And mainly we didn't because we just haven't updated the darn thing

also, audio is a somewhat emotional decision. i talk to people everyday who dont like brand x for some stupid reason that has nothing to do with anything. sometimes people like to rebel against that which is popular without really having a good reason other than wanting to stand out from the crowd. i think this list has to be compiled without emotion, without prejudice and with the foresight that your emotional attatchments to a certain brand or your bias against a product that may actually be a reliable product may cause a less informed person to pass on the better product for their application. for example i know a certain someone who hates kicker products but it has nothing to do with the products......ok maybe the l5 but, that is info that would be useful rather than bash the whole lineup.

If your talking about me and kicker it has nothing to do with there products ive always said there products were pretty good. i however disagree with there buisness practices the team members that act as representatives and the way they screw non team members.

Basically, done by an objectivist. I agree.

I hate all Audio but Boss. Its number #1