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there aint no way in hell im going into the woods with boars with a .38 special lol.

Bwcad1 wrote:there aint no way in hell im going into the woods with boars with a .38 special lol.

^lol
Just get a crossbow for the Boars, but... Make the first shot count

f that you still need a few shots to take them down those things are nasty.

Bwcad1 wrote:f that you still need a few shots to take them down those things are nasty.

Then here is the easiest solution for ya Bill... Keep your lil a$$ out the woods

.45 is the way to go IMO, I like springfield armory myself. Get a small frame 1911, nice gun and could be concealed if you wanted to get a license.

I want a 9mm. IMO its a good all around gun. Not alot of stopping power, but hay thats why they have more than one bullet. The rounds are cheap enough you can go plink pop cans all day without paying an arm and a leg, and there are tons of options out there for upgrades.

Bwcad1 wrote:i disagree with the .44 comment. a .44 bullet on has about 20fps more than than a .45 round on impact even though the muzzle velocity if much great on the 44.

Highly dependant upon which .44 and .45 rounds you're talking about. High pressure loads in either are going to have a lot of velocity, but in general the entire reason it's a .44 Magnum is it's capability to develop substantially higher pressures and velocities than a typical round and gun designed for that round is capable of. Most .45s are not able to handle the chamber pressures necessary to develop such power. If you have a .45 Ruger Blackhawk or a Thompson Contender you can look past that statement. The .45 Colt, apples to apples, is more powerful than the .44 magnum, that is true. It takes much more pressure to push a .44 Mag 325-grain bullet to the speed of a 325-grain bullet in the .45 Colt, and the .44 does lose velocity more quickly. BUT, typical .45 ACP loaders weren't designed to handle such high pressures, the Smith and Wesson N-Frames, Colt Single Actions, or their copies are example of that, as well as many semi-autos on the market. The .45 Colt was designed as a self-defense cartridge, the .44 Magnum was designed as a high velocity hunting cartridge. There is no reason why the .45 Colt and the .44 Magnum cartridges should have same pressure safety margin .45 ACP standard is 14,000 psi while .44 mag is 36,000 psi. Quite a difference. Just generally speaking, with the intended use of either gun, a .44 magnum has substantially higher velocity as well as the propensity to overpenetrate a target. Of course the long range velocity is really only a concern with hunting, in which I'd choose neither and just get a suitable rifle. Over 125 yards or so you're really past the .44 Mag's sensible limit as far as effectiveness goes, especially with larger game.

Jonathan wrote:in which I'd choose neither and just get a suitable rifle.

Agreed! If i'm trying to ward off animals i'm definitely bringing a rifle and or a shotgun..Also..I think you'll find you can get just as much use out of rife or shotgun as you can a handgun.

the problem with that is its much harder to turn shoulder and fire a rifle / shotgun in a short amount of time. a hand gun is much easier to turn aim and fire. by the way john your a smart guy my comparsion was between the .45 acp and the .44 magnum i think either of them would be fine.

Come on Willy!

You know you want that Desert Eagle...