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I know what you were saying, I just get so sick of people dogging the big manuafacturers like RF and Kenwood when all they are doing is making good qualit products and selling them., its not like they are Jensen or something, thay make GOOD stuff, and you are slightly incorrect on the HX2 being their best sub. in BB you can only buy punch level equipment, and yes there was a Punch HX2, which is an awesome sub, I am running one in my conv. hitting high 130's (single 10, 1 cube box, slot port) BUT there was also a Power HX2 which is even better. AND there is the TypeRF sub which is a competition sub and both of those are only availble at a a specialist. Yes I do agree BB and CC installers and salesmen are morons, no doubt about that, I am just saying, to stay alive in this business, sometimes you have to sell to the big box stores if we want the best products. Also, yes, there will always be a small micro company making ultra highe end stuff, but they wouldn't be there if it wasn't for all the big guys coming up with the technologies that are too expensive fot them to use and profit from where the smaller guys can build less products and charge a premium. All I am saying is please give the respect due to the big guys, they are the ones who created our industry and are the ones who purpetuate it. If they disapeared,so would the industry.

RF makes nice products. They just changed course and went from prety much all high end limited production products (80s, early 90s, pre series-1) to mainstream mass production products, most of which are competent products, just very middle of the road, or average in my view. They also have product lines I'm not that fond of, such as Lightning. MB Quart isn't that bad, but I still prefer other brands myself. Also personal preference.
As for Longevity and deep pockets though I could name several companies with similar histories or backing that are strictly high end still. McIntosh would be one. They're now owned by DMC. Parent company to Denon and Marantz. Two mid to high end brands in the home audio world.

Rockford in my view is similar to PPI and Orion now. The other two of the big three, except those latter two are owned by DEI now, and RF is still US made, but it appears that their marketing tactics aren't too dissimilar. Granted with todays economy and market, you pretty much have to appeal to the riceboy groupies if you want to make much money, and that is how ya stay in business.
It's just a shame to see the few remaining really high end companies slowly folding to mass market appeal.

that means i gotta get my REs while i can :P

man i get a kick our of RF's new advertisemnts, they have this one ad were there a picture of a guy and a girl making out next to a fire place dressed real nice and it says "define who you are, lust,greed,power, the fosgate power line" LOL thats a new one, im not sure what there trying to accomplish there.

you can say what you want,anything rf since about '97 is shit,with the exception of the power series stuff,the punch line is absolute and total shit,just my $00.02
Damon