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High Society · Post by **High Society** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:30 am

*two of us is walking off that bus high.*

fixed :P

Post by **GlassWolf** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:34 am

He's not likely to survive that long.

lotas · Post by **lotas** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:48 am

Id much rather be driving on the road with stoners than with drunks. MUCH rather. Recently I've been around a guy that does x, coke, zantax, etc. No way, I could never see that shit being legalized. Maybe with some tiny loopholes like age limits, maybe even classes that show how bad it is you have to take before you get some permit for it or something, but I can't see the US going that far just to legalize a drug.

I think weed is fine, it should just be treated the same as alcohol. Can't smoke while you drive, can't be high while you drive, etc. Remember 0 deaths a year from marijuana. Alcohol is so much worse as far as effects it has on the brain/body while you're high. In my and everyone else I've ever met whose done both's opinions.

Educate yourself: This is from the DEA finding weed safe:
http://www.ccguide.org.uk/young88.html

This guy has a great site:
http://www.jackherer.com/

^^ That will show you all the uses for weed. Not just to get high, but all the natural and biological aspects it creates and what it can do.

Here is the death ratio of other drugs and marijuana: http://www.jackherer.com/comparison.html
"(Marijuana users also have the same or lower incidence of murders and highway deaths and accidents than the general non-marijuana using population as a whole. Crancer Study, UCLA; U.S. Funded ($6 million), First & Second Jamaican Studies, 1968 to 1974; Costa Rican Studies, 1980 to 1982; et al. LOWEST TOXICITY 100% of the studies done at dozens of American universities and research facilities show pot toxicity does not exist. Medical history does not record anyone dying from an overdose of marijuana (UCLA, Harvard, Temple, etc.). "
ok im done

Post by **GlassWolf** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:22 pm

As Mark Twain once said, "There are three kinds of lies. Little lies, damned lies, and statistics."

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:38 pm

Anyone who says that pot wont affect your reasoning must not know much. It will affect it and your reaction times...

Also like anything else, if it is legalized there will be that rather large crowd that abuses it. Anyone who truly believes most people will use such things responsibly is NOT looking at this realisticly.

0 deaths due to pot? Make it legal and that number will probably soar.

All I can say is I dread the day a drunk driver (or just person) or a stoned driver (on any drug) messes with myself or my direct family. As Glass said only one person would be walking away...

Lastly I know the drug topic has come up a few different times here. Any of our long standing members knows where it goes... Everyone states their opinions, things get ugly and the thread disapears/closed. If anyone here is foolish enough to believe the same wont happen to this thread than

to you.

Plain and simple, said topic should not be on this board. I feel its a taboo topic and have always felt this.

Please let this thread just die.

veggie-man · Post by **veggie-man** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:57 pm

my bad didnt see ryans post

i deleted mine

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:39 pm

Drugs are not a good thing. But the legalization of drugs, IMO, is not a bad thing simply because the usage typically drops when it is legalized. This has actually been proven in Europe, and even in America in the 1920s with prohibition of alcohol. It's pretty well known that people want what they can't have to begin with. Compared to dodging a few drunk drivers, in the 20s you'd be dodging a bunch of moonshine runners hauling ass and getting chased by cops just to satisfy someone's liquor demands. And the same is true for drugs today. I agree with Gonz in the fact that at least they'd have somewhere to go.

Cigarettes and beer? Name how many kids wouldn't smoke a cigarette if they could walk into a gas station and get them at an age when they can't even see over the counter. When I started drinking as a teenager, my dad went out and made me drink enough beer that I got shitfaced and puked. I didn't want another beer for a LONG time. Of course nowadays social services would have his ass, but that's discipline for you. Most kids get hooked on "illegal" substances simply due to the fact that it's illegal. Seems to add some form of a badass image in their minds. Same with alcohol. People that have already reached an age where they have developed some form of maturity are much less likely to get hooked on such things, and even when they do they're much more responsible with it from the get-go.

Junkies that commit crimes usually do so to fund their habit. How many cigarette smokers are going to pull their gun out and rob someone just to fund a pack of smokes? We're talking less than a measly $4 here. If marijuana were legal, it would be so cheap and so attainable that you wouldn't have to really invest a lot of effort into paying for it. Or you could grow your own for that matter.

People thought the same thing when certain states legalized concealed weapons-but in many cases the opposite has proven true. Things only become better when you put control in the hands of the responsible.

lotas · Post by **lotas** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:21 pm

Ignorance is strength.

High Society · Post by **High Society** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:57 pm

Hey Ryan,

I know that most threads that are about this type of stuff get ugly. I just figured it wouldn't happen again since what we have been through. I just thought it was crazy, and hit me blind sided. I just wanted others to know about this.

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:00 pm

No problem.

Its cool.